Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[ramset]

OK


Will be updating here tonight
I did speak with the lab mentioned by Rick ( member Void asked me a question ..so I called )
Will be speaking to Stefan  today also ( I hope )


For clarity I am behind timewise to many members here
It is 8 AM as I type this east coast USA


Again remember what we do here

[lancaIV]

Who are" the poor" and what they can afford monetary and in time invest  ?
FIRST TARGET : https://mtbest.net/energy_efficiency.html
                              800 Watt/h DC electricity per household and day delivery

                          Battery : 2028 1 KWh capacity for 10 US$ price decline
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                          Battery Amperage source : 3 x hydro-carbon generator a 12 V/1,5 A

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                           3 x (12 V x 1,5 Ah x 24 h ) = 1296 VAh per day

Each hydro-carbon generator < 10 US$ + 10 US$ battery = total battery-genset < 50 US$
                                                                 Affordable ?

Alternatively as battery source : Don Adsitts " earth battery " concept

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Goto "Main Menue" : 

        E-Bay and other Plans :  NO HYDROGEN NEEDED_FREE_ENERGY_FROM_THE_ EARTH

[nelsonrochaa]

Nelson
here  the membership has purchased (together through donations) oscilloscopes and equipment
here there are  people in the membership who donate equipment to people who experiment


It is only open source ...and only to people who open source their work
So yes absolutely you can take that to the bank if you're going to open source and you need equipment
just as in the past it will happen again.



There is something very strange in this conversation and I don't know if it's language barrier or something hidden
it needs to be spoken
brutal honesty is the only way forward

Hi Ramset,

Sorry about the delay in my answer but i'm a bit busy last days.
I really don't see nothing strange Ramset in our conversation , even any fault of honesty .We only have some difference opinions, and visions about some subjects but righteousness above all !

Answering you :

I know this fórum is Open source,.. but what i need to share exactly ?
I already share some circuits in OU.  Maybe not what most of people want ..... but i share! You could search , and you will find , inclusive last time here a smart guy that decided  take profits from one of the the circuit i share. But that is other story .  But i understand that i'm ineligible ...
So could you tell me exactly what I would have to open source? Or what Others users share to receive support to have help to have 4 channel Scope  ? Only in this way i could understand the real meaning of help and share . Isn't that exactly what this is about? but at what price ?
I'm trying return to some of my last experiments, after i loose almost my equipaments in Germany, i am trying to get back to some projects that have been on the shelf, but it is not easy without some equipment and motivation.  Well we will see what happens in future .


All the best


Nelson Rocha

[ramset]

 Nelson

  I understand  yes it seems confusing ,I think we should talk ?
How to move forward?


On the other subject I did speak With Stefan just now About my discussion with the lab this morning And I asked him also for an update on his friends Work.


I have to be honest I hesitate to type these words, but my long experience here with different members and their claims  makes this easier for me .


Yes the man at the lab did have a machine that he used to do job site work, it ran for a month and a half  and used batteries .
The batteries had to be negatively conditioned (took 4 months to "treat" the batteries) and were extremely annoying to manage .
So little power for so many batteries , he was happy to be finished with the machine and glad when they were able to hook up to the mains  .


Today I asked him wouldn't it be nice to understand the mechanism that was at work , could we investigate this deeper ,We talked a bit about how to do that.


It is hoped that this will happen here , I will be speaking with him again tomorrow about this .
Also Stefan will be coordinating with his friend for that  replication video ..to hopefully
Be shared here.
Respectfully
Chet

[rickfriedrich]

Chet,
Why the hostilites again?

What you say misrepresents what he experienced and said. You make it out like there was 4 months where he could get nothing out of the system as if it suddenly was able to be used. That is absolutely false and misrepresenting. The batteries get more and more conditioned as time passes.

Furthermore, he didn't have big batteries for that system. I believe they were only 100AH batteries. No doubt they were more than he wanted to use as he wanted a system without batteries. That old system normally uses much bigger battery banks. I have been showing how to use transformers instead of big banks.

Also, he was not so negative about the experience. The actual fact is that he built a massive house and he would have needed a much bigger setup to power it. In the end he would have still had to have over 10 times the battery bank with solar anyway.

Also, he was only doing the basic process and not the more advanced processes.

The point you don't wish to focus on is that it worked. You wanted a Lab to confirm this. You recommended that Lab. They said it worked. It wasn't want they wanted because they want something without batteries. But that is a starting point. It is a basic starting point. Most people here do not believe that is possible.

Nelson

  I understand  yes it seems confusing ,I think we should talk ?
How to move forward?


On the other subject I did speak With Stefan just now About my discussion with the lab this morning And I asked him also for an update on his friends Work.


I have to be honest I hesitate to type these words, but my long experience here with different members and their claims  makes this easier for me .


Yes the man at the lab did have a machine that he used to do job site work, it ran for a month and a half  and used batteries .
The batteries had to be negatively conditioned (took 4 months to "treat" the batteries) and were extremely annoying to manage .
So little power for so many batteries , he was happy to be finished with the machine and glad when they were able to hook up to the mains  .


Today I asked him wouldn't it be nice to understand the mechanism that was at work , could we investigate this deeper ,We talked a bit about how to do that.


It is hoped that this will happen here , I will be speaking with him again tomorrow about this .
Also Stefan will be coordinating with his friend for that  replication video ..to hopefully
Be shared here.
Respectfully
Chet