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Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy

Started by Zeitmaschine, December 21, 2017, 12:05:17 PM

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forest

Calm down


There simple way to check B&L device - take it to the small isolated island without electricity like in case of Kapanadze device. Correct ?
I believe it is genuine and the output is DC which can be modulated (it's similar to welding machine working in loop, when part of output is taken to rise the effect)

Void

The video posted by Core looks like it has nothing to do with Barbosa and Leal.
It's hard to say exactly how things are connected, but it looks like one phase from
the grid is in series with the primary of the large transformer, which will have a high impedance
when the secondary is not shorted, and which will not let much current through to power the loads.
When the secondary loop is shorted (thick wires) it effectively lowers the impedance of the primary and
a lot more current flows through to power the loads. This has nothing to do with Barbosa and
Leal devices that I can see.

The only indication that Barbosa and Leal ever demonstrated anything in front of anyone
in person using a battery and inverter was apparently in their own shop in front of Fernando, but
Fernando's account of his measurements seems quite questionable to me. He seemed
to be confused about the high current in the high current loops heating up pipes being an
indication of high output power, but that is of course not the case. Fernando's measurements
and accounts seem very questionable to me. It seems he may not have been very knowledgeable
about doing proper measurements.

I also posted a link here in this thread previously to a comment where it was indicated that Barbosa
and Leal stated in email that they stopped working on those devices several years ago and apparently
admitted in email they they were not OU. The fact that they do seem to have dropped those devices
for several years now and have moved into something completely different which involves a new
chemical process for electrolysis, is also an indication that those devices were not what they thought they
were, or what they were representing them to be. There really is no reason to think that the Barbosa and
Leal devices were OU that I can see. A quick look at how they were connected up shows that they
would draw their power from the grid through a ground loop when connected to the grid, and there were
no demos of their devices to independent witnesses using a battery and inverter that I have seen,
except for Fernando claiming that he saw that setup working in Barbosa and Leal's shop, but Fernando's
claims do not instill confidence for me that he was very knowledgeable about doing that kind of testing.

Kapanadze on the other hand has shown apparent self runners up close with no (detectable) connection to
the grid on a number of occasions in front of various different people, and no one has been able to detect any tricks
so far that I am aware of, beyond baseless speculations about hidden power sources and hidden wires, etc.


All the best...


Hoppy

Quote from: Void on January 13, 2018, 11:43:23 AM

Kapanadze on the other hand has shown apparent self runners up close with no (detectable) connection to
the grid on a number of occasions in front of various different people, and no one has been able to detect any tricks
so far that I am aware of, beyond baseless speculations about hidden power sources and hidden wires, etc.


All the best...

Speculation certainly; baseless - a matter of opinion. When I hear that TK hum and know instinctly that it emanates from a mains driven transformer, then I can reasonably assume that his device is connected to the grid.

Void

Quote from: Hoppy on January 13, 2018, 11:55:08 AM
Speculation certainly; baseless - a matter of opinion. When I hear that TK hum and know instinctly that it emanates from a mains driven transformer, then I can reasonably assume that his device is connected to the grid.

Hi Hoppy. That is still just an assumption. You can say it is pretty certain that some portion of his
device is operating at a low frequency of around 50 Hz to 200 Hz or so and has an iron or steel core
transformer or inductor in the device somewhere, but that doesn't necessarily at all mean his device is
connected to the grid. Just that some portion of his device appears to be running in a similar frequency
range and there is maybe an iron/steel core transformer or inductor in there, probably at fairly high current.

Some of Kapanadze's devices only made that loud buzzing noise occasionally, such as in Kapanadze's 2004 device demo,
and that buzzing may have been coming from his inverter, and in other demos no buzzing is heard at all. In the island demo,
assuming that was Kapanade's device shown in the video clip, when the camera is brought close to his device I could not hear
any buzzing at all, even though it was apparently driving a lot of big light bulbs (high current load). I think it really is not so
clear cut and straight forward as you seem to suggest when a person takes into account all the different Kapanadze video
demos that have been posted over the years.

All the best...

forest

Maybe Barbosa and Leal was the real danger to electric companies but Kapanadze was already ridiculed and controlled ?