Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy

[TinselKoala]

Oh, I don't know about that. God is omnipotent, right? But can He create a rock so heavy that He cannot lift it?

What I mean is this: consistency even puts constraints on God. The universe may be unfathomable to us mere mortals, but so far as we _do_ know, it is entirely consistent, whether made by God to be so, or not. So perhaps God could make a nucleus orbit around an electron... but the rest of the universe would be very different from what we see now, since it would have to be consistent throughout with that kind of orbit. That is, if A is true, then all its implications and consequences must also be true. 

[Newton II]

But can He create a rock so heavy that He cannot lift it?

I don't understand that question.  You know weight comes into picture only when gravity is present and if God makes a huge rock bigger than earth or sun,  it has to be lifted from where? With reference to which gravity?   He can make a rock which cannot be lifted in gravity and lift it in the absence of gravity or just make it an anti gravity ball.

What I mean is this: consistency even puts constraints on God. The universe may be unfathomable to us mere mortals, but so far as we _do_ know, it is entirely consistent, whether made by God to be so, or not. So perhaps God could make a nucleus orbit around an electron... but the rest of the universe would be very different from what we see now, since it would have to be consistent throughout with that kind of orbit. That is, if A is true, then all its implications and consequences must also be true.

As far as the philosophy I know,   flow of time is different in physical world (earth) and non-physical world (heaven).   God's few seconds or few minutes is equivalent to millions of years on earth(our time).  So,  after few days of his time he destroys the universe and creates a new universe with different material properties and which will be after million or billion years of our time.  How do we know that the universe is consistent?   Of course when he creates a fresh universe,  all implications and consequences will be true to the properties of new universe.

[Belfior]

 Yes well this is an interesting debate. Are we talking about the God of Israel or the Creator who made everything? First one is just a member of a sophisticated race and the second one is the unified consciousness

[AlienGrey]

Hmm! what amuses me is how many people think the King James version version of events was written in English and how many of the quotes are pagan!
And I think you will find Gad're'el is Satin (book of Hanock,( NOT ENOCH) !, Gad pronounced God (bar over a = o sound) but how can this be ? In the translation from Arabaic Hebrew to King James English. 'chew that one over' and explain how the creator becomes a God from ''Yawah'' ? (in the translation) !

It was all the consistency at my place of work, that manifested as time went on, I had to go back to the original for reference realised what was going on and moved on.
So sorry if it offends any one but no of fence intended
Allen

[Belfior]

Well when tribes conquer others they take part of those conquered tribe's knowledge and culture with them. That is why Noah's and Mosess stories are just copies of older tales from Sumer. Gilgamesh and Sargon.

Also when a tribe with One God conquers others, they would destroy stuff that would prove otherwise. Egyptians had knowledge and techniques far beyond ours in some aspects, but all that was lost. They moved massive blocks of stone that modern engineers could only move up or down. Somehow they moved them hundreds of miles and then placed them in Baalbek.

I think New Testament is the worst. You steal a religion by saying this "new god" is the son and he calls the shots now. No historian that lived when Jesus did writes about Jesus. Then the gospels arrive 150-450 years after Christ. How many edits were there? The gospels don't even match each other. But then again the message in the new testament is ok. So you'll be fine if you don't take it literally. If you take the bible literally you can conjure up any kinda religion you want from incest pedophiles to murdering you friends.

I am inclined to believe more in genesis that was copied from old Jewish texts where the Sumerian gods (the giants) ruled the earth and created Adam to do work for them. Makes a lot more sense to me that an ancient race came here and created us to do labor.