Kapanadze, Stepanov, Barbosa-Leal and the Secret of Free Energy

[Void]

Losses are irrelevant when a device generates free energy, see Barbosa's and Leal's heated copper pipe.
Since the energy comes for free, then by definition there is nothing that can be lost.

Hi Zeitmaschine. As I have mentioned already, you can connect a section of metal pipe such as
iron (has more resistance than copper) as part of the high current loop and it will get very hot if the
current is high enough. This is a similar principle as for an induction heater and an arc welder. It is not
over unity however.  I have also pointed out to you that Barbosa and Leal's devices work with a ground loop
to the grid, so the power is coming from the grid when connected to the grid. No one I have ever seen has been
able to show anything unusual from Barbosa and Leal devices when using a battery and inverter.

For some reason you continue to ignore these things and still insist that Barbosa and Leal devices
produce over unity. Unfortunately if you ignore evidence that gets in the way of what you would prefer to
believe you will most likely just end up deep in the weeds. The Barbosa and Leal captor loop devices are
most probably not over unity, with all the evidence fairly considered. Rationalizing that they wouldn't have spent
so much time on it if it didn't work is just a rationalization. They may very well have been fooled by the ground loop
to the grid being the real source of the power, just as many people still do not seem to understand how this happens
even in forums like this where this type of ground loop problem should really be common knowledge. I have played
around with a Barbosa and Leal setup using a battery and inverter, and the earth ground wire does nothing no matter
how I wound it around the captor loop wire or connected it to the captor loop wire. Anyway, I won't repeat this again
as it looks like you are determined to ignore any evidence that gets in the way of what you prefer to believe.
Basing your ideas on a device that by all indications is very unlikely to be OU is not a reasonable way to
approach things, IMO.


All the best...

[Zeitmaschine]

Void: »you can connect a section of metal pipe such as iron (has more resistance than copper) as part of the high current loop and it will get very hot if the current is high enough.«

Yes, IF the current is high enough. But just with the inverter connected to a small primary coil (transformer like arc welder but not size and power like arc welder) there is no need for the loop to get hot, tried it myself. If it starts to get hot nevertheless when HV is connected, then this would be a sign that something extraordinary is going on.

Void: » For some reason you continue to ignore these things and still insist that Barbosa and Leal devices
produce over unity.«

Not for some reason, but for good reason. The Kapanadze device seems to work, as we know. So there is no reason why the Barbosa-Leal device should not work, since there is most likely just one principle for that kind of devices. And very strangely Bearden describes exactly this principle in a paper from 1982 (see previous page).

Void: »this type of ground loop problem should really be common knowledge«

And that problem would be? When I connect an incandescent lamp with one side to phase of an electric socket and the other side to a water tap, then is it this what is called a ground loop? Maybe, but this does not interfere with my electricity meter. It continuous to meter every milliampere that goes through the lamp. So what ground loop is it, that could have misled two people familiar with electric equipment at once? Don't know.

Besides I have pointed out that there is no ground loop. The input from grid or inverter can be completely isolated from ground.

Void: »the earth ground wire does nothing no matter how I wound it around the captor loop wire or connected it to the captor loop wire«

Then the most reasonable assumption here would be, that something minor is wrong or missing. Any constructive feedback would be much appreciated instead of keeping saying researchers should better quit.

[Void]

Hi Zeitmaschine.

Yes, IF the current is high enough. But just with the inverter connected to a small primary coil (transformer like arc welder but not size and power like arc welder) there is no need for the loop to get hot, tried it myself. If it starts to get hot nevertheless when HV is connected, then this would be a sign that something extraordinary is going on.

I disagree. I have had quite thick cables get very hot in just a short time.
This was with the input power being less then 20 Watts. It is not over unity however.
I think it wouldn't take all that much more higher current to heat up a section of pipe

Not for some reason, but for good reason. The Kapanadze device seems to work, as we know. So there is no reason why the Barbosa-Leal device should not work, since there is most likely just one principle for that kind of devices. And very strangely Bearden describes exactly this principle in a paper from 1982 (see previous page).

Because Kapanadze's devices seem to be legit does not mean that the Barbosa and Leal devices are legit.
I have already given several reasons why I think the Barbosa and Leal captor loop devices are not likely at all to be OU.

And that problem would be? When I connect an incandescent lamp with one side to phase of an electric socket and the other side to a water tap, then is it this what is called a ground loop? Maybe, but this does not interfere with my electricity meter. It continuous to meter every milliampere that goes through the lamp. So what ground loop is it, that could have misled two people familiar with electric equipment at once? Don't know.
Besides I have pointed out that there is no ground loop. The input from grid or inverter can be completely isolated from ground.

Yes, it is of course a ground loop when you connect a lamp from the grid Live phase to earth ground.
If it does not fool your power meter, it doesn't mean at all that it will necessarily not fool power meters
in some other countries or areas with different grid systems and different types of power meters.
I have already pointed out I have not seen any reasonable demonstration of a Barbosa and Leal captor
loop setup appearing to produce OU when using a battery and inverter. That is not a small point.
If it doesn't work same with a battery and inverter as it does when connected to the grid, then obviously
the extra power is coming from the grid when connected to the grid.

Then the most reasonable assumption here would be, that something minor is wrong or missing. Any constructive feedback would be much appreciated instead of keeping saying researchers should better quit.

No one has said here researchers should quit. You just made that up.
I said it seems very unlikely that the Barbosa and Leal captor loop devices are OU, all things considered,
so hinging your ideas for Kapanade devices on an assumption that Barbosa and Leal devices are OU
does not seem like a good idea to me. Just my honest opinion, and it is constructive feedback. 
If you don't want honest feedback from others, then why post your ideas here?


All the best...

[sm0ky2]

Don't confuse high voltage/low current with low energy.
High voltage can create heat a lot faster than high current.
and more efficiently.


Ionization Energy and Melting Point are tied to the same
nucleic factor.

[TinselKoala]

MAgnetic field is source of energy. More field more energy

No, magnetic field is a _storage_ of energy which must come from somewhere else. Do you think a piggy bank is the source of money?