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Echlin, Flynn, Kunnel - flux path devices

Started by norman6538, January 06, 2018, 08:54:27 AM

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norman6538

I am reviewing the Echlin, Flynn, Kunnel flux path devices.

I understand that the Echlin is a no Lenz counter to motion device
because the coil is perpendicular to the magnet. If that is true
then it is a VERY GOOD THING.

But as drawn there is a very strong sticky spot when the metal
shifts the flux to the coil. But if that could be properly phased with
a second device then that pull toward and the pull back when leaving
could be balanced so that there is only a mechanical rotation
work in required. I am working on a drawing to show that setup.

I remember Al Francour sp? got this working but he said that it
required very close tolerances.

There could be a mechanical version of this as well as a elec generator
version but the mechanical version always has severe limits due to the
further weaker aspect of magnets.

There really is not much recent activity on Echlin, Flynn, Kunnel flux path devices.

I hope someone can enlighten us on these devices.
Kunnel said that his device worked but not as drawn. I never could figure
out how to fix the drawing.

There is an improved version of the Flynn setup called Pemox.
see attached.

Norman


norman6538

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Norman

F6FLT

Quote from: norman6538 on January 06, 2018, 08:54:27 AM
...
I understand that the Echlin is a no Lenz counter to motion device
because the coil is perpendicular to the magnet. If that is true
then it is a VERY GOOD THING.
...
That is false. Flux are looped. When magnets move, they are always flux from the coil crossing the magnet and flux from the magnet crossing the coil.

norman6538

Quote from: F6FLT on December 31, 2018, 11:14:58 AM
That is false. Flux are looped. When magnets move, they are always flux from the coil crossing the magnet and flux from the magnet crossing the coil.

I personally have never seen a no lenz device - perhaps reduced lenz.
What I think Lenz is - is a field comming out of the coil outside - not the inside.
It is weaker than the electro magnet field because it  has no core there.
It is pushes back some  when the magnet and
coil approach each other and it holds back as they leave each other.
If you do this with a coil pendulum setup you can see when current flows
it swings less times till it stops.


Even Shielding that coil does not stop the counter  to motion force.

Norman