inertial propulsion with gyroscope

[conradelektro]

The stepper motors are mounted on a platform 0.6 meters wide and 0.3 metres long. The platform is ungainly wide because I want to rotate the two arms with the gyroscopes also 360° and not only a short way back and forth, just to test all possibilities. The platform will be put on a frame with wheels or suspended like a swing, possibly also be put on a little boat.

Hopefully I will get my first gyroscope tomorrow.

Greetings, Conrad

[conradelektro]

https://youtu.be/AmrUxEAKQI0
How an SPM is used to Maintain orbit
(not changing altitude, but maintaining it)

This offsets a great deal of fuel cost for low-drag craft[/size]Greater the drag, the greater the loss in velocity This loss can only be offset by acceleration, which uses rockets.SPM maneuvers alter the trajectory to maintain the orbital plane which is similar to a gravitational assist. The SPM uses conservation of momentum to maintain the orbital plane.

This is not for maintaining altitude, it is for a stable alignment (the right attitude not altitude). No thrust in flight direction, just angular movement. Yes, it reduces fuel cost, because no fuel has to be spent for attitude control (which is done with the reaction wheels). And with the sentence "This loss (caused by drag) can only be offset by acceleration, which uses rockets." you finally write the truth.

If the spacecraft has a profile which offers less surface to be hit by molecules in earth orbit when it is aligned in flight direction, then this alignment helps to reduce drag. But this drag reduction has nothing to do with generating a thrust or additional movement in the flight direction.
 

To increase velocity or change altitude
engines must be used
https://youtu.be/pTydlh8ifoA

And exactly that is my point (and I do not know what your point is, just rumbling I guess, maybe you just want to sound clever by writing everywhere in this forum, you are an awful spammer, please go to the flat earth crowd and stay there). Increasing or decreasing velocity of a spacecraft cannot be done with gyroscopes or reaction wheels (unbalanced gyroscopes). And all "inventors" since the beginning of the patent system never could come up with a gyroscope based thruster that could change the velocity of a spacecraft. May be there is a way, but nobody could so far provide convincing proof. Let's keep that in mind. And current theory (preservation of angular and linear momentum) says that too.

Greetings, Conrad

[woopy]

Hi all

for info i tested the double gyro on the suspended wheel with the monotoron kevlar thread , (because as the device is quite heavy plus the counter weight, the ball bearing is not fluid enough in rotation   )it works well with a weak but steady acceleration. I just say this machine is a pain because i have broke almost everything during my testing. The last test was with the system completely vertically (no more 45 degrees inclination)

I think it is time now to investigate what is going on here. So i imagine to try to isolate each "special behavior" of the gyro with different experiments.

For today i wanted to test the difference of the centrifugal force, between a dead mass (gyro stopped) and  the gyro spinning and rotating but the precession is "contained" the gyro can not raise (it rotate on a planar path). So to mimic the swing on the Fiala device.

Because as you have perhaps observed in the test on the substrate and marbles (part eight ) , the device drift on the right side (down screen) when the gyro location during the swing is on the opposite side. So the centrifugla force should propell the device on the left (upscreen). But not at all.

So video should provide an explanation because it seems that the gyro and the dead mass as a completely different behaviour concerning the centrifugal force.

https://youtu.be/7xZoMDKsJR0

hope this helps

Laurent

[sm0ky2]

The centrifugal force of the gyro, in its own plane of rotation
Because it rotates as at a much faster speed
Is much greater than the weight of the gyro slowly rotating
in the plane of the arm.
It overpowers the smaller force

[conradelektro]

So video should provide an explanation because it seems that the gyro and the dead mass as a completely different behaviour concerning the centrifugal force.

https://youtu.be/7xZoMDKsJR0

hope this helps

Laurent

@Laurent: your part 11 is very instructive, I did not know that (different behaviour of dead weights and gyros).

I attach a drawing which shows what I want to test first. The spinning gyros should be turned like I indicate in the drawing. It has to be done with stepper motors and microprocessor control. I did that with dead weights (about 12 years ago) and it did not work. Maybe it works with spinning gyros because this is what Fiala suggests in his patent. Also you observed that the turning speeds up when the axle of the gyro engages the track and slows down on the other half cycle (or on the way back with the"rowing machine" of your part 10).

The "rowing" that your machine does in part 10 is mechanically simpler to implement than a full circle but might not be optimal. But I will also test the "rowing".

We will see once I can do my tests, but it is a lot of work to build something. Till now I could attach one gyro to its stepper motor.

Greetings, Conrad