inertial propulsion with gyroscope

[sm0ky2]

Set the device on a floating platform on water


you could hang it from a cable, but then you are combating against gravity.


Don't confuse the other two forces of a gryo
All 3 are part of the same force.


In linear motion, all 3 forces are in a constant vector
parallel to motion


in rotational motion, the 3 forces vectors are constantly changing.
because the direction of motion is changing
This is the angle of the angular velocity of the gyro.


If we assume the gyro to be spinning at a constant velocity
then this is simply a change in angle of the other two forces.
by applying a linear force to the axis, ninety degrees to the rotation
the changing force vector on the gimble reflects the applied force proportionately
and causes the gimble to rotate
in is case, the reaction force of Newton's third law in on the gyro
the momentum of the gyro, because of its high velocity, is far greater than the gimble
so the gimble rotates


By applying a rotational force to the gimble, ninety degrees to the rotation of the gryo
the changing force vector on the axis reflects the applied gimble force proportionately
and causes the axis to tilt.


the gyro doesn't have to be attached to anything, these forces are present in every moving mass
frictional forces and wind resistance, etc. are another subject.
This is why reaction wheels can replace thrusters in satellite stabilization


The forces are internal
Yes, the gimble is attached to the vehicle
but this is also why the entire vehicle moves, not just the rotating mass
and it's support


The forces themselves are a resistance to the change in angular momentum.
remember, this is a linear momentum which changes angle over time
we don't see the force applied to the mass that changes this direction
this is "stress" on the material.
the rotating mass is pulling away from the center of rotation
if rotation is constant, this force is constant, and also changes vector over time.
(centrifugal)
the 3rd law reaction force pulls back on the rotating mass, and changes the direction
of motion to be perpendicular to the stress, and causes a change in angular velocity
(conservation of momentum)
Because the gyro is constant (or only slowing slightly, in some tests)
this is simply a change in angle.
And this stress force is internal.


If this was a point mass, rather than an evenly distributed ring,
then the linear force applied by the angular momentum reflects itself
as a proportional force on the axis of rotation.
This is derived from the stress force, and therefore is also internal.
The craft will move.
But it will move in a vector that changes with the rotation of the gyro.
we call this vibration, but it is inertial linear propulsion.
The vectors cancel each other so 'net' movement is minimized, and in fact,
almost all of the net motion will be a result of other forces. (friction, wind, gravity, etc.)


the forces on the gimble, and axial-tilt are also derived from these internal forces
and are therefore, themselves, internal.
the reaction force is on the material, not the substrate.


Now, at a constant rotation, the forces on the gimble and tilt are proportional


with a constant gimble, the forces on the tilt (or torque) are constant.
if the tilt is on its own axis (also called a gimble, but I don't want to sound confusing)
then the change in angular momentum, caused by the tilt, is like above
the action/reaction cancel around the rotation.
Because it is always equal and opposite.


If the rotation is constant, and gimble constant, and we force a change in tilt
the same thing happens, but in a different vector.
because we are applying a force in a different vector than the force caused by
the rotation and gimble constants.
Also has an equal and opposite reaction force, but opposite to its own vector
not the vector of the normal tilt force.


Each of these action/reaction forces present themselves as a "vibration"
Whereas the propulsion force is in the combined vector.
This is reflected as an increase in current through the gimble motor
when the arm reaches the incline, and a decrease in current when the arm
declines.


this is a change in angular momentum, from the applied tilt, to the normal tilt.
if the gimble were not held constant, it would simply change the gimble
But we are holding gimble constant with the motor, so it translates to tilt.
The force in the combined vector is perpendicular to the tilt.
And is also internal, derived from the stress.
almost 100%  of the force is on the rotating mass.


the forces on the gimble and tilt are because the mass is connected to them.
Otherwise the rotating mass would spin and roll like a ball in free space.
The internal stress force would still be present between the center of rotation and the mass.
Gimble and tilt would still occur, because the forces are internal.
When we attach the gimble to a fixed axis, the linear force of the angular momentum
translators to the axis and whatever it's mounted to


Consider the vibrations of the imbalanced spinning weight
We see these internal forces cause motion of the entire construct.
By force the vector of these forces to be in a desired direction
We have inertial propulsion.
This is why the pager walks off the table

[sm0ky2]

I don't think the "mib"'s view me as a threat
Or they would have nabbed me up long ago....


It is more likely, that if the mibs exist, or anything like that, they would just assimilate the
data stream. (Like Rex research does)


Which appears to be the case if you look at the Eric Jacqmain story
and a few other things that have happened here, that end up as military tech.

[conradelektro]

Very instructive video which will teach you a lot if you allow to be instructed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHGKIzCcVa0

The guy appearing in the video is an annoying smartass but he explains well. It is always annoying to be told the truth, the miracles disappear.

Some more videos of interest for the Fiala patent fans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrGfc-3uv7o (basic principle of gyroscope like the annoying video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGun5athdfg  (two gyroscopes on the same axle, instructive)


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldqUV-DXiUg (almost the Fiala patent, you have to watch this, so, if you turn the thing in one direction there is no additional load on the support platform but in the other direction there is more weight on the support platform, hence the difference in friction on the ground if you put it on wheels, hence the forward movement, but in space it will not work, still I will investigate because I will get exactly the gyroscope from this video)

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@sm0ky2: please do not watch these videos they are too unsettling for a believer, do not jeopardise your hard gained belief. Specially the video which is almost the Fiala patent is off limits for you. Faith is something precious. Have faith, salvation is near.

Greetings, Conrad

[sm0ky2]

I designed a simple demo device to show a more direct transfer of inertia
from a rotating weight, to the structure that holds it.
From the inertial frame of either the rotating mass, or the housing
there is an applied force.
In this case, it is an elastic collision.


Which more closely resembles our pager.
There is actually two devices in one machine
So I will first show one operating,
Then both, to demonstrate a method of combining two vectors into another vector
to direct the momentum in a linear form.
This is very similar to what happens in the gyro
And when the glue dries, I'll have a simple device that can show this.
Then I can set up some tests using different substrates,
wheels, balls, water, etc.


Another simple test you could try at home:
Is to place an arm with a weight to a D.C. Motor with an easy to throw switch.
Attach this to an object with 360-degrees of freedom
Like the plate on balls
When the motor is ran up and switched off, observe.
Turn it back on, switch it off again


Put a throttle on it, observe as you quickly change the speed.

[woopy]

Hi all

To smoky

Thank's for your interest and very intense explanation, but could you please insert some drawing or picture of what you are describing, because it seems to be very clear in your mind, but sadly i can not enter in your mind to see  what you describe .

to conrad

So you had ordered this High precision gyro from England. I tried some time ago and it was out of stock.

Just for info in this video (long and boring at 36'  ) https://youtu.be/sy8znYK8EXg M. Fiala himself shows a device that uses the very same gyro on a small apparatus which is probably described on Fig 47 of the patent.

I have tried this fig 47 device and it works well .

Concerning the 12000 rpm of this gyro , it is not necessary at all. My gyro spin much much lower speed. And remember , the faster they spin the stronger the precession, and if in the precession phase the gyro touches the mechanical (up and down) limitation all the effect is lost, and you get a shaking machine which goes back and forth without horizontal displacement. Not easy at all to get this device running correctly.

I am on a double opposite 45 degres device.

But i fear the MIB, i have looked for a good but cheap bunker at Banggood china but they have not currently. Can you pleeeaaase give me the adress of of your bunker retailor in Austria.

Laurent