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DESTROYING Energy

Started by EHT, January 28, 2018, 03:06:03 PM

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gravityblock

Quote from: gravityblock on February 03, 2018, 01:28:29 AM
Where did I transfer momentum and received the same energy in my example as you have falsely asserted?  Where did I use the same equation for both the momentum and energy in my example as you have falsely asserted?  I used mass x velocity for momentum and 0.5 * mv2 for the kinetic energy!

5 kg mass moving 1 m/s = 5 units of momentum (mass x velocity).  <-------  KE = 2.5J (KE = 0.5 * mv2)
1 kg mass moving 5 m/s = 5 units of momentum (mass x velocity)   <-.------  KE = 12.5J (KE = 0.5 * mv2

As you can clearly see, momentum is a conserved quantity in my example, which you falsely asserted was not a conserved quantity in my example!  Also, energy is not a conserved quantity in my example, which you falsely asserted that it is a conserved quantity in my example.

2.5J is not the same energy as 12.5J!  I never transferred momentum and expected the same energy in my example because I used different equations for the momentum and energy.

You're clearly trying to mislead the reader!

Gravock

@Smoky,

I simplified what I was trying to originally convey and now it is Successful!!!

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

EHT

Quote from: gravityblock on February 03, 2018, 01:28:29 AM
Where did I transfer momentum and received the same energy in my example as you have falsely asserted? 
I never asserted that. I simply showed how transferring momentum does NOT violate the energy conservation law.
Where did I use the same equation for both the momentum and energy in my example as you have falsely asserted?
I never asserted that either. What I said was that Momentum is mass x velocity and NOT the same as energy.
I used mass x velocity for momentum and 0.5 * mv2 for the kinetic energy!
Good work. Equations rock, don't they!
I never transferred momentum and expected the same energy in my example because I used different equations for the momentum and energy.
Using different equations for momentum and energy - wow! What a breakthrough.
Gravock

After your first unsuccessful attempt at showing the world how easily you can break the laws of physics, you shifted the focus to an example involving transfer of momentum instead of energy KNOWING that doing so would make it APPEAR that energy has not been conserved when in fact a true transfer of motion in this example MUST constitute an exchange of energy, not momentum.

Case closed.


EHT

Quote from: gravityblock on February 03, 2018, 02:11:23 PM
I have already shown mathematically how the "other part of that law about creating energy" in which you speak of isn't valid, and you throw one false assertion after another at it without any scientific or mathematical rebuttals!  If the COE (Conservation Of Energy) doesn't hold for creating energy as I have shown mathematically, then this gives support to your claims that the COE doesn't hold for destroying energy.  In addition to this, I have mathematically shown how transferring momentum from a lighter mass to a heavier mass will destroy energy.  The funny thing is, you are rejecting the very thing that gives support to your own claims!  ROFLMAO!!!
Gravock
Firstly, I have made no claims. Secondly, even if I did decide to do so, I would not need any of your "support", thank you.
Lastly, all the relevant math was in my rebuttal. If you want to argue, show me where it is wrong.

gravityblock

Quote from: EHT on February 03, 2018, 12:25:42 AM
The confusion here is that momentum is not a conserved quantity in this example.   <-----This is the false assertion you originally made

Please show how the momentum isn't a conserved quantity in this example:

A)  5 kg mass moving 1 m/s = 5 units of momentum (mass x velocity).
B)  1 kg mass moving 5 m/s = 5 units of momentum (mass x velocity).
 
Both A and B have 5 units of momentum, so you did make a false assertion that momentum isn't a conserved quantity in this example!

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

Quote from: EHT on February 03, 2018, 02:38:25 PM

After your first unsuccessful attempt at showing the world how easily you can break the laws of physics, you shifted the focus to an example involving transfer of momentum instead of energy KNOWING that doing so would make it APPEAR that energy has not been conserved when in fact a true transfer of motion in this example MUST constitute an exchange of energy, not momentum.

Case closed.

The kinetic energy of an object is related to its momentum by the equation:  Ek = P2 / 2m :  Where P is momentum and m is the mass of the body

5 kg mass moving 1 m/s = 5 units of momentum (mass x velocity).  <-------  KE = 2.5J ( Ek = P2 / 2m)
1 kg mass moving 5 m/s = 5 units of momentum (mass x velocity)   <-.------  KE = 12.5J ( Ek = P2 / 2m)

A transfer of momentum is an exchange of energy!

Case Closed!

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.