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V Gate experiment using a Ring Magnet

Started by vineet_kiran, January 30, 2018, 07:56:59 AM

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Belfior

well I mean that one wheel is used for accelerating rotation and other wheel for collecting energy with coils. This other wheel can have the magnets which ever way you want

F6FLT

Quote from: Belfior on February 04, 2018, 08:48:06 AM
...If I can light up LEDs with open ended coils there has to be something flowing in open ended cables.

"Something" is displacement current.
The end of the coil and the conductors of the LEDs constitute the two "plates" of a small capacitor. When voltage and frequency are high, the impedance of the small capacitor is low enough for a current to pass through the air dielectric and to light LEDs, as AC does in any capacitor.


blueplanet

Quote from: F6FLT on November 11, 2018, 12:19:47 PM
"Something" is displacement current.
The end of the coil and the conductors of the LEDs constitute the two "plates" of a small capacitor. When voltage and frequency are high, the impedance of the small capacitor is low enough for a current to pass through the air dielectric and to light LEDs, as AC does in any capacitor.


This is NOT true.
Capacitor can be monopole.
Also, this so-called displacement current occurs in open-ended conductor as well.

blueplanet

Quote from: Belfior on February 04, 2018, 08:48:06 AM
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People always say that "Lentz this and Lentz that", but why use looped coils? If I can light up LEDs with open ended coils there has to be something flowing in open ended cables.


You are right. The surface wave is flowing.
Surface wave is a wave propagating at speed lower than the speed of light. Basically, anything with a bit of conductivity can sustain propagation of surface wave.

F6FLT

Quote from: blueplanet on November 12, 2018, 06:56:31 AM

This is NOT true.
Capacitor can be monopole.
Also, this so-called displacement current occurs in open-ended conductor as well.

"There is no "open-ended conductor", except in the minds of people who are not familiar with physics and electronics.
Any charge in a conductor remotely influences the charges of other conductors in the surroundings, even the orbital electrons of the atoms of any material, including insulators.

Any movement of charges at the end of an apparently "open-ended" conductor is accompanied by a redistribution of surrounding charges everywhere around it, which is equivalent to a current flowing from the "open-ended" conductor to other conductors through air or vacuum, exactly as through the dielectric of a capacitor. It is named "displacement current". A conductor is never really "open", it is always capacitively coupled to its surroundings. It's easy to verify: the hand near the open end of a tuned circuit changes the resonance frequency because it changes the (low) coupling capacity.

Did you at least conduct the experiment and the measurements?!
That's what I did.  And I measured that current is drawn from the generator when the LEDs are lit remotely from an apparently open end of a coil.
It is well-known electronics.  This is a problem for RF engineers because they often have to shield circuits that, although separate, are capacitively coupled (without real capacitor) to remote areas of high potential in the same equipment.

There is no capacitor monopole. For instance a single spherical conductor has really a capacity. But this capacity is calculated as this of a spherical capacitor with two concentric electrode ( C= 4*π*Ɛ0*R1*R2/(R1-R2) ), one being located at infinity therefore C reduces to C = 4*π*Ɛ0*R when R2->∞. In real life, the second electrode is not at infinity but is the surroundings as explained.
The universe is neutral and any change in the distribution of charges somewhere leads to a redistribution of all other charges by minimizing the potential energy.