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V Gate experiment using a Ring Magnet

Started by vineet_kiran, January 30, 2018, 07:56:59 AM

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vineet_kiran

Quote from: sm0ky2 on February 03, 2018, 08:47:37 AM

Attract in, repel out.
Essential function of a magnetic gate.


You are very correct.  I am trying it that way.  In any magnet track,  with whatever force the magnets pull in while approaching, with same force they pull back while leaving,  which makes magnetic field conservative.  Hence if that 'pull back' force is eliminated (repelled out),  overunity is achieved.  But unfortunately it is not so easy to achieve it.  Have to try my luck.

forest

You have to construct something mechanical which use part of kinetic energy of v-gate to mechanically push magnet outside the attraction force.

Belfior

I am building a magnet motor that is kind of a V-gate, but circular. O-gate :)

I figured that with mechanical devices you always got friction, gravity and air to fight against, so what you need to always do it accelerate. So I have a rotor being built that has magnets on it in a yin yang shape. Magnet on stator is N towards the rotor cylinder and rotor magnets are also facing N towards the stator magnet. Then you get cogging when the rotor has turned half a turn, because the closest N magnet is coming up on the next half turn. I am planning to use an electromagnet here to overcome this.

S-Neodymium stator magnet-N -> electromagnet -> N-rotormagnet-S

So the stator magnet has the electromagnet magnetized 99% of the time so that it has N facing the rotor.

I will use another disc on the axle that has coils and magnet to generate electricity. I am going to control the timing with reed switches so, that when the next half turn N pole is approaching my stator N I will blast the electromagnet with all the electricity I gained from the collecting disc&coils. Electromagnet will turn to S and pull the closest N pole on top of it. Then the current is cut off and the stator magnet N will immediately re-gauge the electromagnet as N. This will hopefully use the rotor momentum to push the wheel on the next half turn and so on and so on.

I have built some magnetic bearings, so the whole shaft&discs are floating freely.

If I get this rotating I have proofed that the Universe does allow us to take electricity from the ambient. There are no batteries, which always kinda makes you wonder if a device is OU or not.

If this works the acceleration will stop at some RPM. The next step is to use the Lorentz force the gain more speed. There a lot of fields so I might be able to place wires so, that Lorentz helps with the rotation.

People always say that "Lentz this and Lentz that", but why use looped coils? If I can light up LEDs with open ended coils there has to be something flowing in open ended cables.

sm0ky2

Quote from: vineet_kiran on February 03, 2018, 09:08:02 AM
You are very correct.  I am trying it that way.  In any magnet track,  with whatever force the magnets pull in while approaching, with same force they pull back while leaving,  which makes magnetic field conservative.  Hence if that 'pull back' force is eliminated (repelled out),  overunity is achieved.  But unfortunately it is not so easy to achieve it.  Have to try my luck.


Field conservation is a timeless-vectored property.
With a symmetrical field, the force is conservative over time.
Because the changes in the field over distance are symmetrical.


When field compression is employed, this factor takes on a different
form.
The change in field over distance can be interacted with via momentum.
Moving through the field adds a time dimension outside of the field.
It's hard to think about time as being a dimensional aspect of our reality
But in magnetism, it presents itself in a testable way.


Time can be shown to exist completely separate, within a magnetic field.
Field assymetry can direct chronological translation in the 3 physical dimensions.


In discretely controlled experiments, it is demonstrated that inertial forces exist
separate from magnetic force (repulsion or attraction).
Even when the magnetic force has complete gravitational control over an object.


Knowing this, we must consider inertia and momentum, even in cyclical/vibratory states.
As a separate force function, that carries through in recombination calculations.


This is demonstrated in a linear gate by comparison of rolling and fixed active components.
a rolling rotor carries rotational momentum components not present in the fixed-position rotor.
even when translational velocity is the same, the rolling member has different translational energy.
gravitational force plays a large part in that interaction as well.


there is another function that appears mathematically at a point beyond maximum compression.
where fluxpolarity  becomes a negative number ^4 stronger than the compressed field.
HJ called this "flipping" the magnets.
Essentially a highly-compressed N pole becomes a S pole (^4) momentarily.
it is an internal function of the magnet, and reverts as soon as compression decreases.
While the specific aspects of this technology are classified, I am allowed to discuss the publicly
known mathematical theory that underlies it.
But I think HJ does a better job, so i'll refer you to the inventor if you want to learn that.
Most of the things we play with do not compress the field to this extent.
But I know a few of you are getting into 3-d printed magnets and custom field engineering
Which is more than capable of performing this.





I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.