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12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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ltseung888

How much gravitational energy can be lead-out or brought-in in the Raymond Head implementation of the Milkovic 2SO?

The answer lies in the actual design and tuning.  In conventional systems, Output is strongly dependent on Input.  In Lead-out Energy Machines, Output is also dependent on how much energy is lead-out or brought-in.

In the discussed 2SO, the Output Energy is shown by the raised height of W1.  The Output energy is used to produce the loud sound – useful in a demonstration device.  That Output Energy can be treated in the form of potential energy (W1 x g x h).  For maximum Output, we should have the largest W1 and the largest h.  Raymond Head achieved this via a pendulum with a long string.  If he reduced W1, W1 would still be lifted to the same height.  The demonstrated Output would be less.

The height lifted is likely to be totally dependent on L1.  Thus some tuning in adjusting the weight to get maximum Output is needed.  He could have increased L1 and L2 proportionally to get a higher h. In other words, he could have doubled L1 and L2 without changing the relative moments.  However, the resultant h will be higher than the 1-1.5 inches (more than 2 inches) - making the demonstration even more impressive.
Can it be this simple in leading out more gravitational energy?

The Input Energy is Pd (Push force x displacement).  The bring-in gravitational energy is a variable.  Thus the Output Energy is also variable.  The claim that Output Energy can be 12 times Input Energy may be possible if the difference in energy (Output - Input) were Lead-out Energy.

Most of the desktop replications are not likely to achieve such a high COP because of the low centripetal or centrifugal force.

One obvious suggestion is to increase the centrifugal force via higher rotational speeds.  The pendulum can be replaced by an unbalanced wheel.  This will be the subject of another post.

Divine revelation?
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

Loopback mechanism for the Milkovic 2SO should be designed after the maximum gravitational energy has been brought-in.

This means large systems.  Both the pendulum length, the lever arms should be long.  W1 should be greater than W2.  L1 should be greater than L2.

Are the replicators here and elsewhere aware of such design principles?  I personally would treat any desktop loopback device as a waste of time...
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

Just finished a long lunch meeting with old friends from the Hong Kong Invention Club.

Discussed the Milkovic 2SO implemented by Raymond Head.

One comment: "We saw this years ago.  You displayed much mathematics afterwards.  If you had given the explanation as you have done, we would have understood and supported you."

Tseung: "I looked and did not see at that time.  How much do you think we need to spend to reproduce the Raymond Head prototype?"

Inventor: "Depends on whom you ask to do the implementation.  The material cost may be around HK$10,000.  If I were to build it and guarantee similar results, the price is likely to be HK$100,000."
Tseung: "A University source quoted HK$350,000.  I suppose the consulting fees of the Professors are substantial.  A sweat engineering shop in China may ask for HK$50,000."

Inventor: "It is the follow-up that matters.  The Tong Wheel that could generate 1 HP is seeking investors.  It is self-looped and has been running for some time.  Other similar prototypes are available for demonstration in Hong Kong.  There is no need to get permission from the Chinese Government to show the 225 HP pulse motor."
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

Comparing Pendulum and Unbalanced Wheel.

If Pendulum in 2SO fashion can bring-in gravitational energy, Unbalanced Wheel will be able to do the same.  For swing angle < 90 degrees, the mathematics is identical.

Possible variations:
1. Swing angle greater than 90 degrees.
2. Stronger pulse can achieve higher rotational veocity and hence greater centrifugal force.
3. Period of oscillation no longer solely depends on Pendulum length.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

 An unbalanced wheel rotating at non-uniform speeds can lead-out gravitational energy.
 
The gravitational energy is brought-in via a lever mechanism.
   
If another rotational mechanism is at the L1 end, will this mechanism have more energy than that to rotate the unbalanced wheel?

 
Can a bright engineer re-design the Bessler Wheel now?
   
Are the Energy Multiplier Machines at Tsinghua University and the device by the Blind Peru Scientist, F. M. Chalkalis, scientific realities?
   
What mechanisms (other than lever) can be used to do similar lead-out gravitational energy work?
 

Divine Revelation?
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.