12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[Void]

@Void: The device shown in the "Chinese investors" video simply has one of the electrolytic capacitor cans gutted and the insides replaced with button cell batteries like LR74. The circuit will keep the LEDs lit brilliantly for many hours, perhaps even days, running on these cleverly hidden batteries.
Akula/Stivep/Ruslan are suffering from violation of Conservation of Miracles. They are not allowed so many! Different circuits, all "working", but only for them and for no one else. Cheap devices with just a few components, schematics posted, but for some strange reason they will _never_ send anyone we can trust, like you or me, one of their "working" models. Think about it.

Hi TK. I understand your skepticism and your point that it seems quite suspicious that Akula was able to
come up with various different self running devices. It seems at least possible however that the working principle
behind these devices is the same or similar, so that even though the devices are implemented in different ways,
they may be working on a similar underlying principle. I think the difference between your perspective and my perspective
is that even though I fully realize that there is a very high chance that any claim of over unity is false,
I do not make any assumptions about such being necessarily so. Yes, there is mountains of nonsense out
there in regards to over unity claims, but despite that I still allow for the possibility that over unity may
be achievable. I wouldn't assume anything is really over unity without lots of solid evidence, but by the same token,
I wouldn't assume any device is definitely not over unity without good reason as well. BTW, I don't assume Akula's 
and Ruslan's devices are over unity, as they could potentially be fakes of course, but I do allow
for the possibility that they could be genuine until I see sufficient evidence to the contrary.

Regarding your point about Akula not sending his device out for inspection, if you want to market such a device,
no one is likely going to give away the entire details of how such a device works unless maybe they have some
patents first, but even then, many inventors or companies would not give out full details about their inventions
publicly as they usually want to market their inventions and stay competitive. Giving away proprietary secrets usually
isn't done by people who are interested in marketing an invention. Why Akula released schematics of some of his
devices I don't know, but for all I know the schematics may have had things in them that were meant to throw people
off the right path. It is hard to say what motivations he may have had. He may possibly have wanted to give out some helpful
tips to other experimenters for all I know.
All the best...

[ltseung888]

 

Hi Lawrence. My comment that the bi-toroid transformer was around for some time was of course not meant to suggest that something being around for some time means it is not valid, but I was just pointing out that that device has been looked into quite a bit and does not appear to give over unity. I can't comment on
the Milkovic 2SO device or other similar types of mechanical devices because I know next to nothing about such things. I will say this however. If any given device really is producing over unity, it shouldn't be too overly difficult for the most part for a qualified experimenter to set up a demonstration that clearly shows that the device is generating over unity, which can stand up to close inspection.

Dear Void,

You are absolutely correct that any claimed OU device should be able to stand up to close inspection by qualified scientists.

The demonstration set up by Head in reply 2179 of this thread:

In analyzing the Milkovic 2 stage pendulum as shown on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC6Qlj1Mbo8

We noted that after 2.30 minutes, a single push by the hand will lift the weight twice. On close examination, the lifting of the Weight appeared to be when the pendulum bob is swinging with the maximum velocity at the vertical position.

In Physics, work is done (energy is spent) only when there is displacement.  In this case, the output is the lifting of the weight.

*** I am claiming that the Milkovic 2SO is already an OU or lead out energy device.

    A competent scientist will examine the Input (finger pushing the pendulum) and compare it with the Output (Weight lifted twice) to check for OU.

We did better.  We replaced the pendulum with an unbalanced wheel.  We discovered some additional facts:

1.     A balanced wheel will not lift the Weight.  An Unbalanced wheel will.  A Balanced wheel has no elements of oscillation of the pendulum.

2.      The number and positioning of the weights on the unbalanced wheel affect the performance.  It can be compared with pushing the swing at the right time or resonance.

3.  With the Chan Wheel, we can measure the Input and the Output energy carefully.  I am sure that there will be discussions or violent arguments on the measurement methods.  But that should give rise to good scientific knowledge.
 
4.  If we can lead out gravitational energy in the Chan Wheel or the Milkovic 2SO, we must be able to lead out magnetic or electromagnetic energy.  That can be demonstrated easily with the horizontal unbalanced wheel with appropriate magnetic fields.


I like the FixtheWorldProject.org approach – disclose the experimental steps before the final result. 

Many looked at the video but did not see that we have an actual OU device for over 20 years.  (I am one of them.  I looked at the video multiple times 10 years ago but did not see until recently.)  It is simple and easily reproducible.

[Void]

The demonstration set up by Head in reply 2179 of this thread:
In analyzing the Milkovic 2 stage pendulum as shown on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC6Qlj1Mbo8
We noted that after 2.30 minutes, a single push by the hand will lift the weight twice. On close examination, the lifting of the Weight appeared to be when the pendulum bob is swinging with the maximum velocity at the vertical position.
In Physics, work is done (energy is spent) only when there is displacement.  In this case, the output is the lifting of the weight.

Hi Lawrence. Ok that is interesting. Like I said I know next to nothing about analyzing such mechanical systems,
but just a general observation is it seems to me the person who made that video may be overlooking the concept
of mechanical advantage. It sure looks to me like the rocker beam in conjunction with the long swinging pendulum is acting like a lever.
As we know, we can use the mechanical advantage of a lever to use a small force to lift a heavy object. The trade off is
we must move the lever through a large distance (the long swinging pendulum in conjunction with the lever action of the rocker beam) to
move the weight a short distance (inches). The long pendulum arm extends the length of the rocker beam (lever) on the force input side.
Again, I don't really know, but it does look like the action of a lever at play in that video. I don't know much about the unbalanced
wheels you describe. Do you have a link to video demonstration of this type of wheel?
All the best...

[ltseung888]

Void,

Description of the Chan Wheel started at reply 2246 and that of the Yuen Wheel at reply 2296 of this thread

I shall now start the  "expected different views" on Input and Output measurements of the Chan Wheel.

The Input can be the difference in Potential Energy when the weight of the unbalanced wheel is at the top and the position when the wheel started not to lift the Weight.  These two height positions are relatively easy to measure and repeatable.  The Potential Energy is just
mgh where m is the unbalanced weight, h is the height difference and g is the gravitational constant.

The Output is detrmined by the total height of Weight W1 lifted.  This total height can be accurately determined by examining the video frame by frame with a graph paper in the background.  The Potential Energy or Work Done is MgH where M is the weight of W1, H is the total height lifted and g is the gravitational constant.

We can change the configuration to get slightly different COP. 

I shall wait for the arguments or objections on this simple method.

God Bless,

Lawrence

[ltseung888]

First comment:

Input:  Use the unbalanced wheel as pendulum.  Find angle when Weight W1 can be lifted.  Video the movement and the drop in height of the unbalanced wheel weight.

Output:  The two heights lifted.

We may use both methods.