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12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

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ltseung888

Quote from: Merg on December 30, 2014, 10:48:51 AM
Some replica work from Russia based on the Milkovic pendulum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSRa_JcSKug   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyv4zeVUxvU

Dear Merg,

Thank you for your information.  After reading them, I am convinced that Milkovic and team know that the Milkovic 2SO is using gravitational energy.  They know that they are bringing-in energy from the outside.  They may not have the same understanding of lead-out energy as myself but we are on the same path.

The points that are the same:
1.   We both recognize that we are using gravitational energy as the external energy source.
2.   We both realize that if we can harness gravitational energy, we can harness magnetic or electromagnetic energy in a similar way.

The points that are different:
1.   I believe the unbalanced wheel is superior to the pendulum.
2.   I believe that resonance of the Milkovic 2SO relying on the pendulum matching the seesaw is limiting.  The amount of energy that can be lead-out is limited.
3.   The amount of energy that can be lead-out via rotation and jumping can be much higher.

One other point from a religious group:
Is the World ready for the "free energy" technology?  Will the hatred, greed etc. that is prevalent now use the technology for evil purpose?  Should we wait for a morally prepared society before releasing such technology?  (Is that what WITTS is saying?)
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

CANGAS

Quote from: ltseung888 on December 30, 2014, 06:42:00 PM
Dear Merg,

Thank you for your information.  After reading them, I am convinced that Milkovic and team know that the Milkovic 2SO is using gravitational energy.  They know that they are bringing-in energy from the outside.  They may not have the same understanding of lead-out energy as myself but we are on the same path.

The points that are the same:
1.   We both recognize that we are using gravitational energy as the external energy source.
2.   We both realize that if we can harness gravitational energy, we can harness magnetic or electromagnetic energy in a similar way.

The points that are different:
1.   I believe the unbalanced wheel is superior to the pendulum.
2.   I believe that resonance of the Milkovic 2SO relying on the pendulum matching the seesaw is limiting.  The amount of energy that can be lead-out is limited.
3.   The amount of energy that can be lead-out via rotation and jumping can be much higher.

One other point from a religious group:
Is the World ready for the "free energy" technology?  Will the hatred, greed etc. that is prevalent now use the technology for evil purpose?  Should we wait for a morally prepared society before releasing such technology?  (Is that what WITTS is saying?)


QuoteOne other point from a religious group:
Is the World ready for the "free energy" technology?  Will the hatred, greed etc. that is prevalent now use the technology for evil purpose?  Should we wait for a morally prepared society before releasing such technology?  (Is that what WITTS is saying?)
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Of course a person who lives by hatred and greed and other antisocial sins will try to use any successful tool, such as a OU device, to overpower others! How naive are you?

Should an inventor wait rather than trying now to help the human society? Are you serious? Wait until the average human is so nice that everyone is helpful and not harmful to any fellow human....Duuh, there is enough wealth of energy, food, and other necessities right now that every human could live comfortably if EVERY HUMAN WAS NICE AND UNIVERSALLY HELPFUL. You would verbatim have to wait until Hell freezes over if you wait until every human just somehow turns out to be a really nice guy.

Creating a widespread comfortable level of prosperity by making energy, ie, electric power, free or at least really cheap, to every human will CREATE the non-competitive conditions requisite for every human to relax, and give no more effort to DEFEATING fellow humans.

There is an unreal quality to your expressed naivete. I hope you are not some kind of a troll baiting us to ferret out those of us who would proactively use OU to aggressively help the human race.


Regards
CANGAS 116 

ltseung888

Quote from: CANGAS on December 31, 2014, 02:46:22 AM



Of course a person who lives by hatred and greed and other antisocial sins will try to use any successful tool, such as a OU device, to overpower others! How naive are you?

Should an inventor wait rather than trying now to help the human society? Are you serious? Wait until the average human is so nice that everyone is helpful and not harmful to any fellow human....Duuh, there is enough wealth of energy, food, and other necessities right now that every human could live comfortably if EVERY HUMAN WAS NICE AND UNIVERSALLY HELPFUL. You would verbatim have to wait until Hell freezes over if you wait until every human just somehow turns out to be a really nice guy.

Creating a widespread comfortable level of prosperity by making energy, ie, electric power, free or at least really cheap, to every human will CREATE the non-competitive conditions requisite for every human to relax, and give no more effort to DEFEATING fellow humans.

There is an unreal quality to your expressed naivete. I hope you are not some kind of a troll baiting us to ferret out those of us who would proactively use OU to aggressively help the human race.


Regards
CANGAS 116

Had new year eve dinner with a friend.  We discussed the same point.  His view is to devote half the effort on technology and half on human morality.  The posts will be mixed.

I am trying it out on this post.  Scientifically,
1. It appears that the "lead-ou,t energy" of the Milkovic 2SO or Chan Wheel is independent of INPUT.  The experimental evidence is that if the screws of the Chan Wheel were loose, we would still see the hammer moving up and down.  But the Unbalanced Weight W2 will loose so much potential energy that the device will definitely be under Unity.  Once the screws were tightened, the measurements indicate Overunity.  Additional tuning did improve the result.
2.  The suggestion is to compare piercing a hole in a water tank.  The energy used to piercing is totally independent of the energy obtained from the water coming out of the tank.  Is this suggestion valid???

Morally,
1. We shall pass this knowledge to the under-privileged.  Building a Chan Wheel is easy.  Give the full knowledge via their local universities or governments.
2. Help them to think along the lines of "lead-out Energy".  Emphasize that the intention is to benefit all humanity.  Encourage them to do their own thinking.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

Scientific point:

If a weighted spring is pulled, the oscillation or vibration motion will be shown.  With additional pulse, the amplitude will increase.  If there were no loss of energy, the oscillation will last forever.  When we add the pulse, we can say that work is done against gravity and the energy is stored in the oscillating spring.

Another way of saying is that - the pulse brings gravitational energy into the system.

If the Weight were an rotating Unbalanced Wheel at the right matching frequency, the action will simulate pulsing.  Will the rotational speed of the Unbalanced Wheel decrease to match the gain of energy in the system?  Is it possible that some gravitational energy is "brought-in" due to the "jumping" action of the Unbalanced Wheel? 

Morality point:

Should the new generation think outside the box?  Should they find the answer themselves?  Should they build their own worth?  Will a better world result?
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

The horizontally pulled pendulum calculation is repeated here.  This calculation was in the patent database and also presented at Tsinghua University.  It convinced the participants that the 225 HP Pulse Motor was no hoax.  If lead-out energy were theoretically possible, the 225 HP Pulse Motor could lead out the magnetic or electromagnetic energy without fossil fuel.

The Physics and Mathematics are correct.  The pendulum pushing part of Milkovic 2SO is already a lead-out energy device. 

Morality point:

Do your own mathematics and thinking.  You can use the attached spread sheet and use different values for pendulum bob and horizontal forces.  Check the mathematics thoroughly.  Do not believe in "authorities".  (Do not totally trust the political leaders.  They usually have hidden agendas.)
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.