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12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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ltseung888

My patent applications both in US and China were rejected because they were classified as impossible perpetual motion machines.

On communication with the patent office - if I can demonstrate a working prototype to their satisfaction, they will reconsider.

I believe the US patent office was "satisfied" with a working prototype and  awarded US Patent 7,095,126 B2 to Jesse McQueen.  If the US patent Office was consistent in their work and satisfied with a working prototype, the prototype had to have worked including the self-running after starting.

I consider the following "lead-out" Energy devices as confirmed:
1. Milkovic 2SO
2. Chan Wheel
3. Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier
4. Witts generator
5. Ymnee QMOGEN
6. McQueen QMOGEN

There may be more but I have not had the chance to examine them.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

Low-Q

Quote from: ltseung888 on March 01, 2015, 05:32:49 PM
Now that the discussions are on scientific basis, I would like to add the following:

1.  The varying Centrifugal Force of the Unbalanced Wheel or Cylinder will cause the axle to vibrate.  This vibration or oscillation will lead-out gravitational energy.
This vibration will cause the inertia of the flywheel to require energy input to sustain rotation. So it's correct it will potentially deliver energy, but on the expense of energy input.

Quote2.  If this additional energy is immediately transferred via a loose belt pulley system to another axle, the lead-out gravitational energy does useful work. (Chas Campbell arrangement)
So there is no additional energy due to the explanation above

Quote3.  Even in the case of a perfectly balanced wheel, if we couple it with a loose belt pulley system, a vibration will be produced.  This vibration will also lead-out gravitational energy.
Nope

Quote4.  Thus it appears a belt type system is better than a tooth type system if we want to lead-out and use the lead-out energy.
No comment

Quote5.  Can we consider the vibrations caused by the varying Centrifugal Force as pulses?  Control via transferring the energy via belt and pulley to another axle?
In the field of gravity we can consider the varying centrifugal forces as sinuodial, not pulses. If you had put a force-meter in the axle, and fed the readings into an oscilloscope, you would see a sinewave.

I repeat what other members here has mentioned: Without a physical working device, based on the principle in simulations, we cannot say or claim there is over unity going on. A physical experiment will finally reveal the real workings of such a device. Too often people miss out elements in the calculus. Elements that is ignored or overlooked. So again, physical experiments that measures energy input and energy output is the ONLY way to verify the real workings of a device.

Vidar

MarkE

Quote from: ltseung888 on March 02, 2015, 12:59:02 AM
My patent applications both in US and China were rejected because they were classified as impossible perpetual motion machines.

On communication with the patent office - if I can demonstrate a working prototype to their satisfaction, they will reconsider.

I believe the US patent office was "satisfied" with a working prototype and  awarded US Patent 7,095,126 B2 to Jesse McQueen.  If the US patent Office was consistent in their work and satisfied with a working prototype, the prototype had to have worked including the self-running after starting.
It is trivial to check the USPTO PAIR records to find that what you say you believe is BS.  The prosecution records show that McQueen altered the language of his application to remove any statements that the device self-sustains.  He changed the language to state that the device "improves efficiency".  The prosecution records do not include any demonstration of the claimed invention.
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I consider the following "lead-out" Energy devices as confirmed:
1. Milkovic 2SO
2. Chan Wheel
3. Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier
4. Witts generator
5. Ymnee QMOGEN
6. McQueen QMOGEN
As demonstrated above, you do not perform even trivial diligence.  You can believe that the Easter Bunny funds the retirement of deserving individuals with equal confidence to your above declared beliefs.
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There may be more but I have not had the chance to examine them.
The fact is that you have not performed a competent examination of any of the above listed devices.

noonespecial

Quote from: Low-Q on March 01, 2015, 02:03:38 PM
The electric motor is turning the flywheel.

Only in the sense that they are harmonically coupled and energy is indirectly transferred from the motor to the flywheel. The motor does not directly turn the flywheel.

I can accelerate the motor and the flywheel will accelerate. If I accelerate to quickly or add too much load, the coupling falls apart. This is the major flaw in these two stage devices.

ltseung888

Monthly Meeting on March 8, 2015 (Sunday) from 2 pm in the Office of Peter Chan
Open to all who are interested.  Email lawrencetseung@yahoo.com to confirm participation.

Place:

Office of  Mr. Peter Chan
Unit C, 15/F, Block 1
Tai Ping Ind. Center
57 Ting Kok Road
Tai Po, N.T.
Hong Kong

Agenda:

Available for experiments
Chan Wheel, Yuen Wheel, horizontal and vertical magnetic suspension.

Agenda
1.   Introduce the participants
2.   Introduction to QMOGENs
3.   The Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier QMOGEN
4.   Other self-running QMOGENs including WITTS and YMNEE
5.   Open Discussions
6.   Dinner (optional at HK$100 per person)
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.