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12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

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Low-Q

Quote from: zoelra on April 15, 2015, 03:01:48 PM
@Lawrence,

My understanding of the lead-out theory comes from your 'Divine Revelation 2' spreadsheet.  From what I understand of the theory, gravitational energy can be 'led out' in the vertical direction when the horizontal balancing force is decreased, allowing the pendulum bob to drop.  The weight of the pendulum bob times the vertical drop distance represents the energy 'led out'.  There is nothing new here unless my understanding of the theory is incorrect, so please correct me if I am in error.

Assuming my understanding of the theory is correct, I'm having a problem with a statement you made in another post.  In post "Reply #3159 on April 13, 2015, 10:27:17 AM" you provided a link to another post.  An excerpt from that linked post is below:

   Cheung:  ... Can you explain the energy lead-out process more?"
   Tseung:  ... The effective weight going down is higher because of the centrifugal force when the Unbalanced Weight is going down.  The
                     effective weight going up is less.  If there were no loss of energy, the height going up will be higher."

The explanation you gave to Cheung suggests centrifugal force is the principle energy creator and not the dropping pendulum bob as you described in the 'Devine Revelation 2' spreadsheet.  Perhaps I am not fully understanding what you are saying to Cheung, or are taking the comments out of context.  Can you please elaborate to help clear up my confusion.
Zoelra,


I know you asked Lawrence, but I just have to comment something:
Gravity only provides an offset point, from where the oscillation have its center. If you place an imbalanced wheel at the end of a steel rod for example, the tension in the rod is already present when the wheel stands still - as the weight forces the steel bar to form a downward arched shape. When the wheel spins, the oscillation will cause the tension in the steel bar to vary from more to less (from more arched to straight for example). This difference in tension due to the oscillation, I do believe Lawrence has misunderstood to believe that there is an energy or gravitional difference that can lead out energy.
If that was true, the imbalanced wheel would definitely accelerate by itself due to the gravitational difference caused by the difference in centrifugal force (His definition of difference in centrifugal force is however correct) and finally spin out of control. That evidence hasn't Lawerce one single word about.
I have posted two videos on youtube displaying that Lawrence claims are incorrect. Those provides help and understanding to anyone but him. He will continue to refer to his previous posts talking about flying dinner plates and lead-out energy.


Lawrence explanation is incorrect, with lack of correct mathematical and practical evidence. I have by practical experiments proven those claims wrong. Even those do not convince him to change is way of thinking.


Here is my videos - again - if you haven't watched them yet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_d7oIZ0-A0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV3RAL-SWjc


Vidar

ltseung888

Quote from: zoelra on April 15, 2015, 03:01:48 PM
@Lawrence,

My understanding of the lead-out theory comes from your 'Divine Revelation 2' spreadsheet.  From what I understand of the theory, gravitational energy can be 'led out' in the vertical direction when the horizontal balancing force is decreased, allowing the pendulum bob to drop.  The weight of the pendulum bob times the vertical drop distance represents the energy 'led out'.  There is nothing new here unless my understanding of the theory is incorrect, so please correct me if I am in error.

Assuming my understanding of the theory is correct, I'm having a problem with a statement you made in another post.  In post "Reply #3159 on April 13, 2015, 10:27:17 AM" you provided a link to another post.  An excerpt from that linked post is below:

   Cheung:  ... Can you explain the energy lead-out process more?"
   Tseung:  ... The effective weight going down is higher because of the centrifugal force when the Unbalanced Weight is going down.  The
                     effective weight going up is less.  If there were no loss of energy, the height going up will be higher."

The explanation you gave to Cheung suggests centrifugal force is the principle energy creator and not the dropping pendulum bob as you described in the 'Devine Revelation 2' spreadsheet.  Perhaps I am not fully understanding what you are saying to Cheung, or are taking the comments out of context.  Can you please elaborate to help clear up my confusion.


The more complete explanation is in reply 3120.  The key point is listed here:
From the collection of QMOGENs, some did not use flywheels or unbalanced wheels at all.  They do not lead-out gravitational energy.  Can they lead-out magnetic or electromagnetic energy directly?


I believe the answer is YES.  Let me first list the possible situations that can lead-out gravitational energy.


1.  Horizontally push a pendulum.  The tension of the string will increase.  This increased tension will bring-in or lead-out gravitational energy.
2.  The Milkovic 2SO effect[/size].  The Centrifugal Force will be highest when the bob is at the lowest point.  This plus the weight on the RHS will produce a higher clockwise moment and raise the Weight W1 on the LHS.  Gravitational energy is brought-in.  The [/size]Chan Wheel[/size] is the improvement.
3.  The athlete on a trampoline[/size] will exert the jumping force at the right time.  The re-bouncing force plus the jumping force will send the athlete up higher with each successive jump.  Some gravitational energy is brought-in to provide the greater height.
4.  A rotating unbalanced wheel at the end of a spring.  There will be vertical oscillation of the spring.  If the period of rotation matches that of the spring, the successive pulls will reinforce and bring-in gravitational energy.
5.  An unbalanced cylinder is effectively a super set of unbalanced wheels.  It can lead-out more gravitational energy.[/size]If gravitational energy can be lead-out, magnetic or electromagnetic energy must be able to be lead-out in a similar fashion.  This can be proven with the horizontal magnetic pendulum.


Thus, it is likely magnetic or electromagnetic energy can be lead-out in an oscillation system or rotating system.  Almost all electric motors or generators have rotations.  Leading-out magnetic or electromagnetic energy is theoretically possible.


My recommendation is - do the simplified Tsinghua University QMOGEN first and confirm that the unbalanced cylinder can lead-out gravitational energy.  Add this unbalanced cylinder to almost all rotating systems and bring-in the gravitational energy


Divine Revelation 2 spreadsheet focused on point 1 - Horizontally push a pendulum. The tension of the string will increase.  This increased tension will bring-in or lead-out gravitational energy.  It does not matter whether the pendulum bob is swinging.

A few months ago, I re-examined the Milkovic 2SO.  I looked at it for over 10 years but did not see.  I finally saw that the Milkovic 2SO is overunity and was able to lead-out gravitational energy with a different mechanism.  The Centrifugal Force will be highest when the bob is at the lowest point.  This plus the weight on the RHS will produce a higher clockwise moment and raise the Weight W1 on the LHS.  Gravitational energy is brought-in.  The Chan Wheel is the improvement.

The reply to Cheung takes the theory one step further.  It extends the theory to vertical oscillation in gravitational field.  The athlete on a trampoline will exert the jumping force at the right time.  The re-bouncing force plus the jumping force will send the athlete up higher with each successive jump.  Some gravitational energy is brought-in to provide the greater height.


Another way of looking at the vertical oscillation scenario is the effective weight change.  The effective weight going down is higher because of the centrifugal force when the Unbalanced Weight is going down.  The effective weight going up is less.  If there were no loss of energy, the height going up will be higher."


Lawrence
reply 3156
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

Three teams in Hong Kong are doing the simplified Tsinghua University QMOGEN experiment.  At least one team is willing to share the results.


There are at least 60 QMOGEN claims now.  There is strong possibility that another one will come from Hong Kong with comments and videos from me.  Just wait...


Low-Q may be able to do the simplified Tsinghua University QMOGEN experiment also.  Another member - noonespecial - is in a good position to do it also.  His videos on youtube use the username purelyprimitives.  He has already done the Chalkalis experiments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlUHCMtfvwg


Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

MarkE

Quote from: ltseung888 on April 16, 2015, 02:46:12 AM
Three teams in Hong Kong are doing the simplified Tsinghua University QMOGEN experiment.  At least one team is willing to share the results.


There are at least 60 QMOGEN claims now.  There is strong possibility that another one will come from Hong Kong with comments and videos from me.  Just wait...


Low-Q may be able to do the simplified Tsinghua University QMOGEN experiment also.  Another member - noonespecial - is in a good position to do it also.  His videos on youtube use the username purelyprimitives.  He has already done the Chalkalis experiments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlUHCMtfvwg
It is simply amazing how you post links to videos that DISPROVE your unworkable ideas.  That video you linked indisputably shows the machine performing work on the stand, thereby losing, not gaining energy.  That video reinforces what we observe in Low-Q's video where the unbalanced wheel quickly slows down when the supporting structure: the pendulum is loaded. 

ltseung888

My advice to Government X

Dear Government X,

I would like to bring your attention to two paradigm shift technologies.

One is related to leading-out or bringing-in energy from the environment such as gravitational, magnetic or electromagnetic.  The easiest implementation is the QMOGEN.  The term QMOGEN was coined by Sterling Allan.  QMOGEN stands for Motor and Generator Pair with self-looped energy.  The Motor first gets energy from mains and drives an unbalanced Wheel/Cylinder.  This is connected via belt and pulley to drive the Generator.  After full speed, the Generator will supply energy to the Motor.  The original Energy Source will not be needed.  The energy comes from the Lead-out energy – gravitational, magnetic or electromagnetic.

The second paradigm shift technology is the Flying Saucer.  It uses the centrifugal force mechanism.  Some Christians call it the "King David Sling" mechanism.  This mechanism will allow the Flying Saucer to move in any direction in space without ejecting any material.  The fuel can be the lead-out energy that can be replenished anywhere in space.

China and USA already have such technologies in advanced development.
  Tsinghua University has an energy multiplier QMOGEN since 1996 and USA has granted a QMOGEN patent in 2006.  Both have Flying Saucer prototypes accidentally flew outside controlled areas and got photographed.

A very cheap way to test the QMOGEN costs less than USD500.  Details are in reply 3156:

http://www.overunity.com/1763/12-times-more-output-than-input-dual-mechanical-oscillation-system/msg445805/#msg445805


The purpose of this email is to ensure the knowledge (or Divine Wine) is shared.  The entire World will benefit.  If everyone has access to inexhaustible clean energy and can travel anywhere including outer space, the new paradigm of peace and prosperity will materialize.

Please get your experts to evaluate the technologies. There are debunkers (paid?) trying to discredit the technologies.  However, there are now over 60 QMOGENs from many different Countries.  The Flying Saucer has been sighted by many thousands.  The physics behind both technologies are laid out in the thread above.


Lawrence Tseung
Email:  Lawrencetseung@yahoo.com

Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.