12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[Gregory]

Hi Gregory,
please explain,
why you think it is not 12 timesmore out than in ?

Hi Stefan,
Yes, those measurements and explanations are looking very fascinating, but this is not enough to prove the machine producing 12 times more output than input. If it really does that, then Mr. Mikovic can show as a machine all running by itself. Only after this happens can he measure correctly how much excess energy output is provided by the machine. He also said mistakes are possible.
I think there are some confusing thing about force and energy. If we take a 12:1 ratio lever, we can lift a 12 times heavier mass by one unit of mass, but we don't say the lever puts out 12 times more energy, because we know that the lever is only a force-distance conversion device.

Mr. Mikovic's device is not a lever, only contains one. I think the best thing about his device is the principle, that he uses the momentum and inertia of the heavy horizontally oscillating pendulum to make the hammer move vertically. When the hammer going down gravity helps to it, so only need to be lifted while the motion of the hammer does not affect and slows down the swing of the pendulum. Clever idea, I really like it. As he compared to the gears and cogwheels his system does not work the same way back and forth and very different than gears.

Other things... Maintaining the pendulum's movement looks very easy when we see it maintained by a human being, but doing the same with a mechanism is not the same task and usually harder.
The pendulum oscillating through a much further angle than the hammer, and also it has more weight. That is a good amount of kinetic energy (by gravity) compared to the hammer.

I can say I love Mr. Mikovic's ideas, and I think they show good possibilities regarding Gravity devices and the action-reaction connectivity, but I also think if the machine finally can work in a closed loop (in its present form) it won't produce 12 times more output than input.

I wish a nice weekend to everybody!

Regards,
Greg

[FreeEnergy]

[NerzhDishual]

Hi clever overunity.com crowd!

Thanks a lot to Harti_Berlin for these vids (and, BTW, for his web forum).

Just my 2 cents:
The  Reidar Finsrud's (overunity) device is using pendulums (and magnets). Is it not?

Else :
The output is 12 times more important than the input?
If this has been seriously measured we must agree or trying to do our own replication and measurements. Do not we?

My guess is that discovering any overunity device (output>input) is not so easy but having it self running should be another huge job.

Best

[Dingus Mungus]

I would assume a tiny electro magnet should be able to lift the pendulum to its optimum fall hieght. A pendulum maintains 99% of its energy in each cycle so the magnetic power required to help it reach its original fall hieght should be minimal. Also since pendulum swing times are basde on the length of the pendulum a control curcuit for the EM should be simple.

Hope that makes sense to those thinking about replication...
I'm actually considering it since mechanics is more my speed.
I'm just waiting to see what other members do with it first.

Great thread!
~Dingus

[pg46]

Somebody's probably already thought about this or mentioned it perhaps so sorry if its repeated.
How about using a mechanical spring wind up unit like as in a mechanical clock mechanism to power the pendulum. Then using the work end of the lever to mechanically connect to and thus rewind the pendulum spring?
The same can be done electrically instead also.

Best,