12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[neptune]

It has been several years now since the release of info on the 2 stage oscillator . There have been numerous attempts to prove that it is overunity , some quite convincing and others less so . Some attempts show a COP of more than 2 . And yet nobody has succeeded in closing the loop . The main problem seems to be phasing . This could be solved in theory by storing output energy before feeding it back , but this will inevitably involve conversion losses . These losses do not need to be very great before the system falls below unity . RHEAD 100 did some great work . Has anyone heard from him in the last 6 months ?  If looping proves to be impossible for now , then the best use is as an energy amplifier for human powered machines .Milkovich demonstrates this in his water pump , but how many have been sold and are in daily use ? By using an unbalanced constantly rotated flywheel instead of the pendulum , posssibly we could use it to help power a bicycle . Remember that globally , more people rely on bikes than cars .
         One posibilty for looping would be to store energy in a large clock spring . The great thing about a spring is that you can intermittently wind one end whilst taking energy from the other end . Any comments would be most welcome .

[DreamThinkBuild]

Hi All,

This is just something I've been "toying"  with trying to combine a lever and pendulum. Small motor on top shifts a weight which gets the heavy mass (diametric magnet) swinging like a pendulum. Powered by a 1500F ultracap. This design is not OU the pulse is too short and intermittent. It does slow down the discharge of the cap though. I may rip it down and rebuild a new design.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr0KyMqMZtc

[Cloxxki]

It has been several years now since the release of info on the 2 stage oscillator . There have been numerous attempts to prove that it is overunity , some quite convincing and others less so . Some attempts show a COP of more than 2 . And yet nobody has succeeded in closing the loop . The main problem seems to be phasing . This could be solved in theory by storing output energy before feeding it back , but this will inevitably involve conversion losses . These losses do not need to be very great before the system falls below unity . RHEAD 100 did some great work . Has anyone heard from him in the last 6 months ?  If looping proves to be impossible for now , then the best use is as an energy amplifier for human powered machines .Milkovich demonstrates this in his water pump , but how many have been sold and are in daily use ? By using an unbalanced constantly rotated flywheel instead of the pendulum , posssibly we could use it to help power a bicycle . Remember that globally , more people rely on bikes than cars .
         One posibilty for looping would be to store energy in a large clock spring . The great thing about a spring is that you can intermittently wind one end whilst taking energy from the other end . Any comments would be most welcome .

Which was the most convincing for you?

I think calling it a multiplier is even too much at this stage of verification.
Perhaps it's a transformer and capcitor more than amplifier. Still, flywheels are better at this as far as I know.

I was most impressed by the effortless water pumping. To me it seems like the the trick here was overcoming the stiction in the pumping mechanism. The 2SO converts a long, gentle push into spikey pull.
The fact that Mr. Hand is raised before tapping the first stage may be something that many overlook. Mr. Arm doesn't get tired from the pushing down, gravity does that. Raising is where Mr. Arm is puts in energy.

[johnny874]

Which was the most convincing for you?

I think calling it a multiplier is even too much at this stage of verification.
Perhaps it's a transformer and capcitor more than amplifier. Still, flywheels are better at this as far as I know.

I was most impressed by the effortless water pumping. To me it seems like the the trick here was overcoming the stiction in the pumping mechanism. The 2SO converts a long, gentle push into spikey pull.
The fact that Mr. Hand is raised before tapping the first stage may be something that many overlook. Mr. Arm doesn't get tired from the pushing down, gravity does that. Raising is where Mr. Arm is puts in energy.

  Jan,
I think what I posted to Andrea is the solution everyone has over looked.
He has been working on it himself. It allows a secondary weight to momentarily increase the potential of the main weight on the pendulum. And as it cycles, it can be utilized for this purpose.

                                                                                   Jim

[neptune]

@Johnny874 . please show a link [ or a reply number if its in this thread ] to the solution that everyone overlooked .
@Cloxxki . Forget about Mr Arm and Mr Hand . Look at the youtube chanel of Rhead100 . He shows a 2so powered by a falling weight . The load is a heavier weight being lifted . He claims 80 inch pounds of input gives 2400 inch pounds on the output . Not an amplifier? This is the demo I found most convincing .