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12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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ltseung888

Quote from: Void on March 12, 2015, 09:41:36 AM
Hi Lawrence. The large flywheel in the video may well be from a commercial source such as a flywheel designed
for some industrial machinery. Also, it seems highly doubtful to me that a small imbalance in a flywheel
would cause the device to be over unity. If there was any significant imbalance in the flywheel then the
flywheel would likely cause very noticeable shaking in the frame. Sorry, but you appear to be really reaching to try to
justify your ideas, but the fact is if at least some 'QMogens' which do not use any unbalanced wheels or unbalanced
cylinders really do work as claimed, then it is simply not known (at least publicly) what is causing them to work.
All the best...

I shall focus on using the traditional physics to explain the Milkovic 2SO.  Look at the attached slide again.

If we replace m1 with a spring, the up and down motion will still be shown.  The lead-out energy will be "stored" in the spring.  The oscillation motion will still be evident.  At high rotational speeds, the amplitude of oscillation is expected to be less.  The centrifugal force would be so large that its effect will be more than that of gravity.  The lead-out energy, if not properly used, will cause violate shaking (as observed).

This oscillation energy can be transferred - thus using another axle as in some QMOGEN is a possible solution.

Understanding the workings of the Milkovic leads to the understanding of the QMOGEN.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

MarkE

Lawrence, cycle to cycle no work is done.  Why do you keep perpetuating the lie that work is done?  After one complete cycle the machine is back to where it started and nothing has changed in the external environment.  N-O W-O-R-K has been done.

sm0ky2

The force imparted by the moving pendulum is always tangential to the path of motion ( orange arrows)
The purple line represents the path a normal pendulum would travel, the red arch shows the path the milkovic pendulum system operates in.
If we divide the period (T) into 4 parts, and analyze the force during each part,
When the pendulum begins, (1/4T) the force is mostly in the horizontal vector, having little or no effect on the leveraged mass to be lifted.
we see that as the pendulum approaches bottom dead center (2/4T)
the force increases as the tangential vectors into alignment with the gravitational (perpendicular) force.
Then as the pendulum leaves the bottom center (3/4T), the force decreases as the tangential vector heads towards the horizontal in the other direction. And finally as it approaches the other end of its swing (4/4T) the force is almost completely in the horizontal again.

Now, during the middle two 4th's (2/4T and 3/4T),
as the pendulum follows the red path, the vertical distance covered (blue) indicates the height or distance over which this force worked.
Force x Distance  This is the equivalent to the force x distance opposing gravity on the other end of the lever, the work done to the weight.
unless you created a perfectly symmetrical weight and lever system, these are probably different forces over different distances, but the energy value (Joules, or Newton-Meters) is equivalent.

here is a some explanation of the tangential force of the pendulum:
http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/waves/Lesson-0/Pendulum-Motion

http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/301/lectures/node140.html

and a period calculator
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/pend.html

and heres my diagram:
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

MarkE

Or more simply:  Absent adding energy, at the end of each cycle the stored energy in the pendulum is no greater (actually a little smaller) than at the start of the cycle.  In Lawrence's examples the pendulum does not perform any net external work.  Some energy gets shifted into GPE of the heavier weight, but only temporarily before that energy is shifted back out of the GPE of that weight.

Paul-R

Quote from: ltseung888 on March 12, 2015, 05:10:39 PM

I shall focus on using the traditional physics to explain the Milkovic 2SO.  Look at the attached slide again.

If we replace m1 with a spring, the up and down motion will still be shown ...
This apparatus is what I use to determine how much oatmeal to mix with 150ml of water to  make my oatcakes, which I thoroughly recommend for healthy bowels and cholestrol reduction.