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Overunity Machines Forum



12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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ltseung888

For the bright student, the teacher only needs to say once.  For the lowest grade students, I shall say one more (last) time.

1.  Mass m1 is lifted only when the Centrifugal Force Fc + m2*g is higher than m1*g.

2.  During the lifting, the amplitude of swing does not decrease.

3.  The energy required does not come from the pendulum.  The. only other source is gravity.

4.  When m1 is raised to a high h, the potential energy gained is m1*g*h.  This lead-out energy is available to do work.

5.  The pendulum bob swings higher.  The velocity gets lower  The Centrifugal Force decreases.  The Force m1*g is again greater than m2*g + Fc.  The mass m1 falls back to ground.  The original position or state is repeated.

6.  The energy to return the pendulum system to the original position is m2*g*h.  This energy comes from the lead-out energy mentioned in 4.

7.  The difference (m1-m2)*g*h is used to produce the loud bang noise in the original Milkovic.  In the later Milkovic, that energy is used to pump water. 

8.  That amount of energy (m1-m2)*g*h is relatively small because the period of the pendulum is fixed.

9.  The obvious improvement is to replace the pendulum by an Unbalanced Wheel.  The amount of gravitational energy can be increased hundred or thousand times because of the much higher rotational speed.

10.  The QMOGENs get it right.  The Motor is used to increase the rotational speed.  The Centrifugal Force varies as the square of the angular velocity.  Thus increasing the rotational speed leads out much more gravitational energy.

11.  The Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier is effectively many Unbalanced Wheels joined together to form Unbalanced Cylinders.  Thus it can lead-out much more gravitational energy.

This is the last time I answer this lead-out energy question.  If the student does not understand, too bad.  Let them ask help from the bright ones.

Lawrence
see reply 2826
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

sm0ky2

Quote from: ltseung888 on March 15, 2015, 08:16:01 AM

2.  During the lifting, the amplitude of swing does not decrease.

Lawrence
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This is FALSE

We have proven that the pendulum does in fact decrease, in exact accordance with the energy consumed during the lifting of the weight.
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

memoryman

The ultimate proof is in the demonstration of a self-looped device; when will you DEMONSTRATE that, Lawrence?

MarkE

Quote from: ltseung888 on March 15, 2015, 08:16:01 AM
For the bright student, the teacher only needs to say once.  For the lowest grade students, I shall say one more (last) time.

1.  Mass m1 is lifted only when the Centrifugal Force Fc + m2*g is higher than m1*g.
And m1 falls right back to its starting position, at which point there is no energy output at all despite lots of energy input by the operator.  No energy out of any kind means that there is no "lead-out energy".
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2.  During the lifting, the amplitude of swing does not decrease.
This is in effect a glorified lever.  The lever only rises as the operator inputs the energy to move it.  This is the same with the pendulum:  It only swings as far as it does based on the energy input from the operator.  When enough energy is input to swing far enough to start lifting m1, then m1 starts to lift that energy redistribution takes directly from the swing of m2.  As long as the operator keeps inputting enough energy to overcome the losses, the system eventually reaches a new equilibrium state where the amplitudes of the swings become stable.
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3.  The energy required does not come from the pendulum.  The. only other source is gravity.
The energy all comes from the operator.  Gravity contributes nothing but a consistent attractive force between the masses involved, the big one being the earth.
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4.  When m1 is raised to a high h, the potential energy gained is m1*g*h.  This lead-out energy is available to do work.
Such work is surrendered right back into the pendulum when m1 returns to its starting position as it always does without the machine having transferred any energy to the outside world.  The machine as drawn and demonstrated is 0% efficient because it performs no external work.
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5.  The pendulum bob swings higher.  The velocity gets lower  The Centrifugal Force decreases.  The Force m1*g is again greater than m2*g + Fc.  The mass m1 falls back to ground.  The original position or state is repeated.
The machine moves cyclically through different internal energy distributions like any other pendulum.  It performs no external work.  It obtains no "lead-out" energy from gravity, just like no other pendulum obtains any "lead-out" energy from gravity.
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6.  The energy to return the pendulum system to the original position is m2*g*h.  This energy comes from the lead-out energy mentioned in 4.
Every bit of the energy stored in the pendulum at any point in the pendulum's cycle comes from the external operator.
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7.  The difference (m1-m2)*g*h is used to produce the loud bang noise in the original Milkovic.  In the later Milkovic, that energy is used to pump water. 
Any energy transferred to the outside world: sound energy from banging, or pumping water, takes away from the internal energy of the pendulum and must be replenished by the operator, or the pendulum quickly comes to rest.
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8.  That amount of energy (m1-m2)*g*h is relatively small because the period of the pendulum is fixed.
One can build big flywheels, or pendula that are capable of storing lots of energy.  A big bucket of water does not "lead-out" gravitational energy.  A big flywheel does not "lead-out" gravitational energy.  A big pendulum does not "lead-out" gravitational energy.  And neither does this device.
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9.  The obvious improvement is to replace the pendulum by an Unbalanced Wheel.  The amount of gravitational energy can be increased hundred or thousand times because of the much higher rotational speed.
N*0=0.  A bigger pendulum made from an unbalanced wheel would simply store more energy.  All of that energy is supplied by the operator.
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10.  The QMOGENs get it right.  The Motor is used to increase the rotational speed.  The Centrifugal Force varies as the square of the angular velocity.  Thus increasing the rotational speed leads out much more gravitational energy.
No QMOGEN has ever been shown to self-power, or to obtain energy from any previously unrecognized source such as your gravity "lead-out" claims.
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11.  The Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier is effectively many Unbalanced Wheels joined together to form Unbalanced Cylinders.  Thus it can lead-out much more gravitational energy.
Where may one find any statement from Tsinghua University that any such "Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier" ever existed and if it existed: ever worked?
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This is the last time I answer this lead-out energy question.  If the student does not understand, too bad.  Let them ask help from the bright ones.
Since your claims have been shown to be false many times, one can only hope that you will abandon them and return to reality.
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Lawrence
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Pirate88179

Quote from: MarkE on March 15, 2015, 04:54:20 PM


Where may one find any statement from Tsinghua University that any such "Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier" ever existed and if it existed: ever worked?

You can't.  All of the people involved with this project were killed and the device was destroyed.  Yet another tragic example of energy suppression.  Lawrence thinks that Sterling is going to jail for the same reasons.  He exposed too much.

Bill
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