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Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated

Started by gotoluc, March 23, 2018, 10:12:45 AM

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Dog-One

Excellent workmanship Luc!

You should now have a platform to route out this mystery.  As I would expect from a craftsman like yourself, take your time, don't damage anything and conduct simple tests that will guide you to the solution.  Try to imagine in your mind what is happening and confirm it with applied reasoning.  You'll get it, no need to rush to please the crowd.

D1

listener192

Quote from: jerdee on June 04, 2018, 12:39:21 AM
What does the armature output windings do in a NORMAL A/C or DC generator while the fields are cut?


Again, everyone is over thinking.  Think simple.  Research normal generator basics!!!  Pierre is utilizing this effect, while ALL ENGINEERS ARE TRYING TO REMOVE IT in the mechanical version!!!  Find what engineers are trying to remove...and then you'll see why Pierre's device works.


Again, think simple, don't over complicate!!


Jerdee


The challenge in small stator 3 phase AC generators is to develop a decent sine output with minimum triplen  harmonics which waste energy. This is accomplished with distributed windings but the effectivity is limited by the number of slots available. The other item is to minimise IR losses hence heat disappation, which is constrained by wire size and slot CSA available, Rotor energization current being DC obtained from stator windings after rectification, is minimized by small gauge high turn coils maintaining maximum flux. Rotor/stator gap is maintained at a minimum to maximise flux coupling.


I guess you dont mean any of those things.


L192

konehead

Hi Luc
Nice to see Pierre himself is encouraging and giving out compliments on your excellent work. This is very good sign everything will be working out great.i think very soon.
Seems like there is still something elusive and mysterious about how it operates in looped mode.
I am sure when you do find it, it will become simple to understand and hopefully teach to others too
Keep going and don't stop to argue!
That's what "they" hope your project will degenerate to...
Loop it publically, expect to be thrown into shark feeding frenzy...
You are the boss man now go go go

onielsen

Quote from: jerdee on June 04, 2018, 12:39:21 AM
What does the armature output windings do in a NORMAL A/C or DC generator while the fields are cut?
...

Then the armature is free to spin and will do so without loading the prime mover if that is still running.

In Pierre's device the stator field is always on as well as the load on the locked rotor. The stator field just moves in steps instead of being fixed or variable as in motor stators. My guess for the excess energy is harvesting the difference in energy levels between separate and coherent fields. The input energy goes to separate coils as seen from the power supply. The stator coils are electrically in series but magnetically in both series and parallel.

The output coil (on the armature) sees the fields from different coils as a coherent field which represents more energy than the single fields when just added. The combined fields make up the coherent field. This I guess is the 'Principle of Inversion' as described by Wilbert B. Smith in 'The New Science' chapter 10 (http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/newsci~1.htm#ch10forces)
Regards
Ole

konehead

Hi Luc
Am thinking why 10% recovery at slow speeds
And 80% at very high speeds?
Probably because of difference in pulse width?
If there is no  pulse width adjust to compensate for different frequncies,
Pulse width will be too fat at slow speeds and core and coil will over-saturate and backspike/flyback/backemf energy will be cntained witbin d and trapped within coil and core's  over-saturation period for that measly 10% return of energy you see.
However at high frequencies now the pulse becomes just right for good return energy of 80%
Combining and making induced generated energy with flyback  energy also perhaps will "cohere" using  short pulse width
perhaps this one of secrets
I dont know but nothing will get through (or out) when everything over saturated.
Perhaps chop pulse going into inductor at the perfect pulse width so instead of one long 1ms pulse instead give .1ms pulse width five times with .1ms off time between too for total of 1ms pulse period this just example but idea here is first find best pulse width for inductor and voltage and current input for best recovery
Then go from there