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A Solid-State Maxwell Demon

Started by ZL, May 11, 2018, 10:13:58 AM

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Do you believe that the claims in the paper "A Solid-State Maxwell Demon" by Dr. Daniel P. Sheehan are correct?

Yes, I am absolutely sure about that.
3 (37.5%)
I believe they are correct, but I am not qualified in this subject enough to be sure.
3 (37.5%)
I am totally confused by the critics like Germano; both possibilities (true - false) are equally probable.
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I believe they are incorrect, but I am not qualified in this subject enough to be sure.
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No, I am absolutely sure that Dr. Sheehan's diode can't convert heat energy into mechanical or electrical energy as he claimed.
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Total Members Voted: 8

memoryman

"Whatever I saw from FE inventors was never worth killing for. It just did not work and therefore one needs a conspiracy to hide the fact that it is nonsense." Very well said.
Claims are considered FALSE until proven true (null-hypothesis), not the other way around.

ZL

The promised critique that explains what the errors are in Dr. D'Abramo's paper "A Note on Solid-State Maxwell Demon" has been published. You can download the pdf from my website for free at:

"Critique of the Paper 'A Note on Solid-State Maxwell Demon' by Germano D'Abramo"
by Zoltan Losonc

https://feprinciples.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/fallacies_of_dr_dabramos_critique.pdf
https://feprinciples.wordpress.com/downloads/

If something is unclear, or you find errors in it, then please let me know

vasik041

Quote from: conradelektro on June 13, 2018, 05:51:56 PM
I am not arguing for or against something, I just want you to think. Like you, I know nothing and I have no proof for anything. But I do not want to stop my brain functioning when I read obvious nonsense.

Nothing is fine on this world. But you do not need a conspiracy to explain stupidity, aggression and greed. This is how people are. Usually everything gets messed up, also conspiracies. So, the biggest argument against conspiracies is that they are too good to be true. Nothing works as well as the conspiracy lovers want it to function.

There are conspiracies, but they are not long term, not over decades. No political system or power structure survives long term. Strategic alliances or financial agreements change rather rapidly. Every situation changes over time, also at universities, in enterprises, in clubs and in clandestines institutions. And today everything is more short lived than ever.

Conspiracy lovers expect too much from the people whom they imagine to organise conspiracies. Conspirators fuck up like everybody else therefore elaborate conspiracies would not work even if they were attempted as the steep stories tell. It is wishful thinking in a strange sense.

Conspiracy theories do not explain the world. Fortunately the world is much more complicated and richer than conspiracy theories make you believe. And the people and even you yourself are much less predictable or governable than conspiracy theories allege.

Everybody dies one day, also FE inventors. Whatever I saw from FE inventors was never worth killing for. It just did not work and therefore one needs a conspiracy to hide the fact that it is nonsense.

Greetings, Conrad

Ok, I see your point. Closing your eyes and saying "I know nothing" makes life much more comfortable.
Regards,-V.


conradelektro

Quote from: vasik041 on June 13, 2018, 11:40:48 PM
Ok, I see your point. Closing your eyes and saying "I know nothing" makes life much more comfortable.

I see, you are the one who knows something. You are the man who knows what is really going on. Good, congratulations! Does your knowledge help you?

Greetings, Conrad

conradelektro

Quote from: ZL on June 13, 2018, 07:10:47 PM
The promised critique that explains what the errors are in Dr. D'Abramo's paper "A Note on Solid-State Maxwell Demon" has been published. You can download the pdf from my website for free at:

"Critique of the Paper 'A Note on Solid-State Maxwell Demon' by Germano D'Abramo"
by Zoltan Losonc

https://feprinciples.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/fallacies_of_dr_dabramos_critique.pdf
https://feprinciples.wordpress.com/downloads/

If something is unclear, or you find errors in it, then please let me know

The only useful thing to do is to build a device according to the promise:
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At least two methods have been designed so far for the extraction of useful work from the device. One of these uses a Linear Electrostatic Motor (LEM)[1, 3, 4], while the other is based on a Hammer and Anvil MEMS device [1, 3, 4, 5]. The basic idea behind these methods is to allow the electrostatic forces in the gap to periodically move objects against mechanical resistance and thus perform useful work.
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Enough words have been written, only a physical proof of principle can settle it.

The argument by the opponents (second law of thermodynamics holds) is very strong, because no physical proof (experiment) has be offered against it (only endless words).

The argument of the "inventor" is very weak, because it is not backed by an experiment. Every hypothesis has to be backed by an experiment. Many experiments prove that the second law of thermodynamics seems to be valid, but no experiment so far has conclusively shown a violation.

Physics only moves forward by help of observable and reproducible experiments, not by words.

The second law of thermodynamics has to be attacked with an experiment and not with words. The "inventor" and his avid followers have to provide a thingummy which can be reproduced. Put away the pencil or keyboard an go to the lab. To put it bluntly: stop blubbering till you have something tangible to show!

Greetings, Conrad