Kapanadze and other FE discussion

[Void]

In 2008 Tariel patent  application was denied and revoked by means of  qualification.
His application was assigned/ thrown into to group of patents  that belongs to  Perpetual Motion Machines.
Independently  recreated and providing  the same or similar performance devices based on corresponding  and filed patent application,  after the filing date are eligible as the prove of Tariel's patent.
Ways to prove it are by scientific evaluation or by means of proven existence in the form it was filed.

To bypass   any possible delay I suggested to Tariel to give it to the public.
By means of  grandfathering Tariel is entitled to  the full rights to that patent at no time .

Even if anyone of us present the device  in the form described by
Tariels application than Tariel's lawyers  free of charge to Tariel  will strip humanity from being able to use it without Tariel's acceptance.
Even if his application was revoked he has rights to reopen it and  he will get patent.
All and any form of profit made by anyone till that  time must be recovered on benefit of Tariel.
Well in some countries law does not allow to work back in time.
In such case prove of Tariel concept will be provided  by number of devices replicated.
Tariel or his family after his death will become the wealthiest people on the surface of the  earth.
Along with Mr Turk   the patent attorney who signed the contract with Tariel  for 50%  of future income if Tariel's  patent  will be issued at any time in the future .
He did so and that is why Tariel  got patent application without any expenses of his own.

Hi Wesley. It appears someone was trying to seriously con Kapanadze, if this is what they told him.
The content of Kapanadze's patent applications were so far off from even the basics of what is required in
a patent application that Kapanadze might just as well have submitted blank pieces of paper as his patent applications.

Patent applications have to contain sufficient detail that the patent application should be able to be
used as plans 'for anyone sufficiently skilled in the art' to build a working prototype, if the patent is for
some kind of device. We all know/suspect that at least some people/corporations may very likely intentionally leave out
some important details, or may put in a few purposely incorrect details in their patent applications to try to mislead
any potential competitors from getting their full 'secrets', but they would have to do this very subtly, otherwise if the patent
examiner suspected this they could disqualify the patent application.

In the case of Kapanadze's 'patent applications', they contain such incredibly vague block diagrams and vague descriptions that
no one can tell at all just what exactly it is that Kapanadze was supposed to be patenting. Some very vague arrangement of coils and some
other very vague circuits are alluded to for who know what exact purpose or function. It was so incredibly vague that the patent examiner must
have assumed the patent applications from Kapanadze were some kind of joke. They are worthless to Kapanadze, and would/will
not legally protect him or his cosigners even from someone coming out with a seeming nearly identical device as Kapanadze has shown.
If someone advised Kapanadze that those completely vague and therefore completely useless patent applications he submitted
would somehow protect his legal rights, then the people advising him were either completely incompetent or complete and utter crooks.

[Belfior]

I feel that the system has been rigged at least since Tesla was working for Morgan and Westinghouse. When he started talking about wireless transfer of energy Morgan pulled his money out. Also I bet they realized that they have lotsa infrastructure in place and they make billions by pulling cable in the air across the country. It would all be scrapped if wireless transfer was possible.

I think the current electrical education system is lobbied and sponsored by the energy providers. They dictate what is in the books (and what is not) and they decide who gets research grants for research packages THEY provide. So you can't just say "I want to research free energy", because they will tell you that you get 150000$ to research improved mileage on a petrol engine. Then if you make the engine 8% more efficient they raise petrol price by 15%...

I still think the "answer" is very simple like everything in Nature. We need to think how come do not arrive at this answer? Limitless energy is there. Even scientists agree to this. Why would it be impossible to harness it then? I think the concept of Ether is just all the EM radiation that is more or less evenly spread in the universe. My take on this is that something was removed, hidden or just not talked about. It is not in any school books and it should be the ONLY thing in the school books. Voltage does not get the credit I think it needs. Frequency is said not to affect power. This is very peculiar to me. Like pull your nose once. Then pull your nose 35000 times per second. Do you still have a nose?

Something has been stripped from the knowledge passed onto us. That is why I am asking the stupid questions and trying my own ideas out. I do have a bachelor degree in electrical engineering, but I don't keep it on my wall or preach the UU gospel like some do.

It is obvious that the game is rigged if you just loo outside and compare what you see to the crap they print in books.

Free energy -> anti-gravity -> gtfo of Dodge and let the banks stay here with the illuminati

[AlienGrey]

Belfor  can i ask your age ?  only you seam to be able to write stuff but not read it, only i have seen two or three
ways of creating very efficient energy saving secrets that have been disclosed in the past week alone.

It is not just yourself but others appear to suffer from the same problem, unless it's some one to produce a ready made device or kit your waiting for, witch just isn't going to happen, so get real and start reading and thinking out
side of the box. Then you can show Tinsel and the rest of us how it's actually done  snigger snigger!   

[Belfior]

Belfor  can i ask your age ?  only you seam to be able to write stuff but not read it, only i have seen two or three
ways of creating very efficient energy saving secrets that have been disclosed in the past week alone.

It is not just yourself but others appear to suffer from the same problem, unless it's some one to produce a ready made device or kit your waiting for, witch just isn't going to happen, so get real and start reading and thinking out
side of the box. Then you can show Tinsel and the rest of us how it's actually done  snigger snigger!

I am 44 years old. I have not seen any energy saving secrets that actually work, but then again I only have time to read some threads and not every message posted on this web site.

I do read mostly books between 1880 and 1920. It seems there were many ideas and bench tested stuff that you cannot find in newer books. I am thinking outside the box every day and I try to write all my ideas down, so I might try them out later. If you learn your stuff in school from a guy who also learned all of it from books, you will not discover anything new. If the establishment (energy companies) is affecting the school books then you got zero chance of finding anything new or hidden. You really need to think outside the box to find anything new. Just lie on your back and look at the stars. Write everything down and later toss out everything that does not work.

Or there is the penicillin way and you will fall on to the discovery. Accidents also provided us with neodymium magnets and god knows what else?

My daughter is 11 months and I have maybe 2 hours a week to do some actual bench stuff, if I'm at home. During summer that means no bench time.

All the evidence is there to prove that the energy is also there. The answer will pop up eventually. The Egyptians had some pretty advanced knowledge (or the people before them) and they lifted stones bigger than we can lift now. So they knew something and did not require kacher circuits to use them.

When I find it I will give it to you. You say nobody will make a kit that you can just start using. Why you think that? Money does not make you happy. Greed is the only reason why don't have the secret out yet. That is not only sad, but might end this planet before we have means to fly to other planets&moons

Finding the secret might not even be the biggest problem. If you got limitless energy then everybody has it. Do we wan't everybody to have it? They will use it as a weapon.
World economy and people's jobs are in danger. Economy will survive and people too, because they always have. Airplanes, zeppelins, trains, cars, nuclear power, electricity and factories all changed the economy and some horse carriage makers lost their jobs.

[jojo500]

Here is my comment:
We have  bunch of new guys, posting here.
And I started to respond to.. it was not smart.

I was telling  that at some point  activity  of some trolls can be deleted along with  their accounts.
please keep it in mind
I try to be friendly
Wesley

hmm..
as i'm one of the new guys  i can asure you my last intend would be trolling this subject.
how ever for the most time i simply follow the topic .Over the years i found it more fruitfull to proof some ideas on the bench in
verry smal steps . A few ideas here are verry close to what i was abled to test. I'm not the forum hero anyway so to me it be ok both ways  deletedore not.

have fun  JoJo