Kapanadze and other FE discussion

[Hoppy]

Hoppy no I can't and I don't have the test equipment to develop such a device, did you notice the HF SG the Ols Sci was using
I only have a 5 MHZ device to get any where you need a 100mhz device with PW  impulse drive.

Where are you perhaps we could pull resources ?  you talk about the green box that device would be one of the easiest to play with and perhaps get going to prove one way or the other.

On the other hand tin mans device does prove the point quite well.

AG

Do really think that Kapanadze is using a 100Mhz device with PW impulse drive??  What point do you think Tinman's device proves?
Without some reliable info on what is in the green box, pulling resources without some 'inside info', would be rather pointless in my opinion.

[AlienGrey]

Do really think that Kapanadze is using a 100Mhz device with PW impulse drive??  What point do you think Tinman's device proves?

well the spark gap will send harmonics into the Ghz range ! and the green box coil has a 1/8 wave on that top copper tube
thats got to be at least 10 to 20 mhz, (that's how it works) ( but let's suppose he tiunes one of the layers 0.5uh with 47nf cap it's res would still be in the 2mh range and if you were buying a SG would you bother buying a SG with a top range
less than 100 to 300 Mz ? I wouldn't.

Your asking me stuff that's been on this tread in the last few pages, I wouldn't mind so much if you had read it! and knew how stuff
worked or supposedly is reported to work.

OK here is a test for you what significant difference  would adding an earth to a mono pole Tesla coil make ?

[forest]

Well...I think Kapanadze device works similar to Steven Mark, the principle seems the same but the realization is much safer because of many obstacles it cannot run-away except for a slight 1-2 seconds delay after disconnecting the power source.    So I guess he is using the same method as Henry Moray - storing energy in capacitor and using kind of LC circuit where capacitor  is gradually charged by radiant energy instead of power source. Of course the power output is diminished by a large factor also....

[apecore]

Well...I think Kapanadze device works similar to Steven Mark, the principle seems the same but the realization is much safer because of many obstacles it cannot run-away except for a slight 1-2 seconds delay after disconnecting the power source.    So I guess he is using the same method as Henry Moray - storing energy in capacitor and using kind of LC circuit where capacitor  is gradually charged by radiant energy instead of power source. Of course the power output is diminished by a large factor also....

Forest,

Right it is ( as i believe) based all on the same fundamentals.

For the power part as you say the radiant energy is stored in a cap......., let me say it this way..... and i hope we get it more clear in possible explanations and facts.

Lets start simple,....i like that...
When you puls a coil...  EMF is generated which is coming from the stored energy in the coil.
I would say this energy comes from the radiant energy present in the surrounding of this coil.
With 12V/  0.2A pulsing a coil, i can charge a cap with 1000V,... needing a number of puls chargings.... so maybe this energy needs to be higher in the coils surrounding?


The HV from the kacher or from a separate source ..... is increasing the EMF charging.... or not?
With result that less pulses are needed to charge the same cap to 1000V.
So is this the deal we are trying to accomplish?


in my opinion there is no difference either we are talking about Kapanadze or other related setups..... they all use HV as a energy source and do create a sharp puls to activate a EMF proces in the "output" coil.
The only problem we have is that we can't get it working or maybe in  small way

So this mechanisme needs to be better in place....  the way how this has to be done in order to get significant EMF is still one of the secret.

There are some relations or combinations in the setup which could be critical for this mayor effect;

1- Timing of the puls/ SG is not the missing link,...  many of us have made lots of pulsing boards/ electronics in order to shift this puls.
2- Frequenty relation HV and resonance of the output coil,....is also something most of us has achieved in there testsetup.... but no significant effect yet...
3- Combination of (1) and (2)... Also here i would assume it is a logical next step after having the setup on the bench...... many of us have tried..
4-  Particular output coil/ grenade configuration,.... here could be some secrets being hidden,....  altough the configurations available on the internet could be false..  so this could lead to a dead end on the bench.
5-  (4) could become a endless story if it is realy critical,...  we don t know which criteria yet'is used............ so (1), (2) and (4) hitting the jackpot has a low change
6- Output coil/ grenade wirelength versus (2) seems likely Short wave radio thechnique,..  this is also something what likes to be difficult and not easy to achieve..
This shortwave approach also implicates the whole setup and all its coils,....which is very critical... and thus again difficult to combine with (4) and/ or (2) etc.


Looking at Geo 's results....  maybe he has accomplished one of mentioned combination?  Would be good to know if Geo tried a different modified grenade also and see if he gets same results?
At least to see if it is to determind what is related of the mentioned items.

Greetings

[AlienGrey]

Apcore  some how I'm not so sure it's the grenate, lets look at the green box. Any one played with that ?

pay attention to wire length to keep in resonance notice width of gap use SG and scope to tune first layer
with tune cap for max amplitude at around 500khz - 200khz

let us know how any one gets on.

winding coil a few pages back will do for playing with testing.

AG