Kapanadze and other FE discussion

[rakarskiy]

Do you have any idea how much capacitance is needed for a frequency of 50 Hz? And for current more than 20 amps?
Such a capacity cannot be created by any bifilar of this type.

In addition, manipulations with the capacitance also do not produce free energy in any way, as well as manipulations with the magnetic field.
No power source - no free energy!

Absolutely agree, direct inductive-capacitive transmission will not be with current multiplication (It's a conventional transformer, I gave the link to the patent above). The current force is the state of the load circuit, successive capacitances in it, will work as limiters of this current force. Secondly, who told you about 50 Hz, in the load of Kapanadze's power circuit? Studying his patents, I came to the conclusion that conditionally DC circuit, with a high-frequency pulse block "amplifier/current generator".  How the current generator works, I have already stated, if it is possible to use the capacitive component, then only in the primary circuit of the converter.

What I saw in this "sausage" is yet to be tested.


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In this clip, the researcher is probably demonstrating just how to put the system into generator mode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mz0x_vCXtg&t=98s

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https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-mystery-of-kapanadze-generator.html

[Sergh]

Secondly, who told you about 50 Hz, in the load of Kapanadze's power circuit?

I'm sorry, but 50 Hz is shown by the frequency meter on the GreenBox video. In the Turkish video, a conventional induction motor is powered from the device. Measurement of current  are carried out with ordinary current clamps.

    Therefore, for a long time I came to the conclusion that the device is close to an electrochemical source.
I once experimented with a simple cell that can transfer electicity trought hydrogen polarization.It was a reversible chemical cell with no plus or minus. 
Chemical low frequency AC "transformer".
There was no free energy then. It was only a prototype for determining the possibility of a relatively fast transfer of electricity through electrolytic and chemical reactions.

[rakarskiy]

    I'm sorry, but 50 Hz is shown by the frequency meter on the GreenBox video. In the Turkish video, a conventional induction motor is powered from the device. .....

The frequency meter has not become an outpost for me, the system is more what I see on the schematic and logic in the design of device variants. I also considered this point when I came to my version. I do not consider the Turkish installation, as there is likely to be a complex design including conversion levels. Any motor can be connected to the DC/AC inverter, as the actual collector AC can be connected to the DC network (as many do).

[onepower]

Sergh

Do you have any idea how much capacitance is needed for a frequency of 50 Hz? And for current more than 20 amps?
Such a capacity cannot be created by any bifilar of this type.

This is a common misconception and we have to look beyond bulk non-descriptive terminology like "capacitance". When we say capacitance we mean the force exerted on two groups of charges by an electric field which constitutes energy. Ergo, Energy = 1/2 C V^2, since C (surface area and distance between conductors) is often fixed the voltage determines the energy storage.

For example, a 1F cap at 12v stores 72 Joules of energy and at 24v 288 Joules. When the voltage increased 2x the energy storage increased 4x. What you didn't mention is the most important factor which is the voltage. Raise the 1F cap up to 10,000v and the energy stored is now 50,000,000 Joules.

In addition, manipulations with the capacitance also do not produce free energy in any way, as well as manipulations with the magnetic field.
No power source - no free energy!

I agree but not for the reasons you might assume. Capacitance and Inductance don't do anything there just words, often meaningless terms because they provide no details or context. Capacitance and Inductance don't do anything the electric and magnetic fields interacting with other particles and fields on different levels do.

For example, the Kapanadze device has maybe 50 parts utilizing the interaction of electric and magnetic fields on many different levels. This constitutes millions of possible variables or ways any parts/fields could interact. Have you confirmed the millions of different ways the parts/fields could interact?. If not how could anyone know the electric and magnetic fields were not being manipulated in some way?.

AC

[Sergh]

Sergh
This is a common misconception and we have to look beyond bulk non-descriptive terminology like "capacitance". When we say capacitance we mean the force exerted on two groups of charges by an electric field which constitutes energy. Ergo, Energy = 1/2 C V^2, since C (surface area and distance between conductors) is often fixed the voltage determines the energy storage.

For example, a 1F cap at 12v stores 72 Joules of energy and at 24v 288 Joules. When the voltage increased 2x the energy storage increased 4x. What you didn't mention is the most important factor which is the voltage. Raise the 1F cap up to 10,000v and the energy stored is now 50,000,000 Joules.

Sorry, but that doesn't work. I can't even imagine the size of a 1 farad 10,000 volt capacitor.

Let's go back to the surface of the Earth.

For example, consider capacitors that are sold on ebay.
1. High voltage capacitor, medium quality parameters:
10 kilovolts 0.05 microfarads. Not bad dimensions parameters, if the ruler is in millimeters.
The energy of such a capacitor СU^2/2 = 2.5 Joules 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/255173110571

2. Conventional electrolytic capacitor, 22000 microfarads 80 volts.
The energy of such a capacitor СU^2/2 = 70.4 Joules 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/192052856834

3. Low voltage super capacitor, approximately the same dimensions:
2.7 volts 500 farads. Not a very good ratio of capacity and dimensions.
But the energy of such a capacitor СU^2/2 = 1822.5 Joules 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174845683262

I agree but not for the reasons you might assume. Capacitance and Inductance don't do anything there just words, often meaningless terms because they provide no details or context. Capacitance and Inductance don't do anything the electric and magnetic fields interacting with other particles and fields on different levels do.

Here's what you wrote, the key point. Highlighted in bold. These "other particles and fields" are the source from where the energy is transferred. Especially other field. Not magnetic or electrical.

For example, the Kapanadze device has maybe 50 parts utilizing the interaction of electric and magnetic fields on many different levels. This constitutes millions of possible variables or ways any parts/fields could interact. Have you confirmed the millions of different ways the parts/fields could interact?. If not how could anyone know the electric and magnetic fields were not being manipulated in some way?.

AC

Kapanadze's device consists of a bobbin wound with an ordinary electrical wire. This is enough for the installation to work. No 50 visible parts are needed for a minimum working design. The spark and primary coil are not needed all the time. We were convinced of this from at least 2 videos of Kapanadze. The first video is a 2004 generator in Kapanadze's workshop. The power supply, which created a spark, was disconnected, but the device worked for a couple of seconds with a strange sound. This was followed by a discussion between Kapanadze and a colleague that it was possible to make the device work without the need for a spark. (The translation of this video from Georgian was recently published, links and description are in this topic)
   The second video is "Aquarium", in which the spark gap worked chaotically, the number of operations increased by the time the generator was turned off due to a malfunction.

   We do not know what is inside the bobbin. We only assume. A few posts earlier had a photo of a frame from a video that showed the insides of the coil falling out. Inside is some kind of toroid with constrictions, similar to a scheme with shoe prints.

Please read carefully the postings in this thread for the last month.