Kapanadze and other FE discussion

[stivep]

//why  ordinary metal waveguides coated on the inside with a layer of silver or even gold?
And is this coating polished from the inside?

Types of  waveguides. or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLrYXd1RXvs 
- we are not interested with this types, but it is good to read it  TM mode is what we want.
Earth  Ionosphere space is  a waveguide too. We are not much interested with it yet. ionosphere_waveguide
Everything that  "pipes" electromagnetic wave is a waveguide.

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What is the difference between water and metal?

Not much difference both are conductors.( metal is better)
Salted water  is better conductor than  lake water or earth surface ( partially conductive medium).
Our waveguide called interface must use  conductive medium  like foil or  water and homogenies dielectric (air)
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Can water reflect electromagnetic waves as effectively as polished silver?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waveguide_(radio_frequency)

it depends from frequency e.g. earth and cloud reflects EM wave too especially in VLF. For us silver is not important.
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Why does a glass of water heat up in the microwave, but the metal walls of the microwave chamber do not heat up?
Why is it bad to use a porcelain plate with a metal pattern in the microwave, but a disposable aluminum foil plate is ok?

The metal walls  in the design  do not get heated because they are built as good reflectors of microwave at 2.4GHz
so is waveguide walls. You cannot microwave aluminum foil https://practicalcooks.com/can-you-microwave-aluminum-foil/
Some exemption is here: https://homezesty.com/can-you-put-aluminum-foil-in-the-microwave/
Water, fat and sugar molecules hits fast in 2.4GHz.
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Yes, probably some very long waves with low efficiency can propagate over water.
But I assume that this is only interesting for study as a natural phenomenon.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_wave

Commercial applications uses this technique. That is  where the big money is.
Wesley

[stivep]

Perfect  test site for A to B energy transfer, Also FE. energy extraction from Schumann waveguide.
- but it can  be also regular lake.

Area #1:
Officially named by Senate of USA area:  nytimes.resolution-sponsor-of-terrorism.html
Officially named by European Parliament: eu-parliament-declares-russia-state-sponsor-of-terrorism

Salt containing Lakes:
Baskunchak – a unique salt lake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBqgZZUS8kc
Boiling lake Озеро Кипящее - Кунашир - Kuril  Islands Курильские острова https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCOsXh_ctqI&t=2s
Some more is here: https://www.rbth.com/travel/333486-multicolored-russian-lakes
Caspian Sea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caspian_Sea   https://youtu.be/NiN_mEAY2Ps?t=43
Aral Sea  4th largest  lake in the world  destroyed by some terrorists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp0Sxn42TGs
But leftover small water is absolutely perfect for testing as one of the most salted waters in the  world.
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conditions:
salt water , quiet surface serves as conductive medium
air serves as dielectric
That makes perfect  flat 2D waveguide   to trap electromagnetic energy.
For these more advanced in art, it is  perfect  area for the energy extraction  technique learning .
This area from the perspective of highly civilized  world, is now relatively safe from mentioned banditism,
as long as you do not  bring attention into your testing there.
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How much  is worth successful test:
-anywhere from few millions to few billions dollars depends from experimenter  willingness to share  data.
The downside if  testing for profit is that most of A to B is already patented, unless you deliver something
  uniquely new but essential. However your  practical setup is priceless to a buyer. e,g. Tariel Kapanadze 

How big is cost of  the test:
- if it was in USA material cost around $50  plus cost of measuring equipment
  for these  who do not need  drive far to the test site .
  If the test is not using water but earth as a partially conductive medium - the large backyard
   or agricultural field is sufficient enough.
   Beach wet with salt water may be also good.( I didn't test this  option yet)

What is included in the test if tested is A to B energy transfer
1. field the best if it is 1 mile /1km but ~70ft is also not that bad.( depends from frequency used)
2. two tesla towers with adjustable top capacitor. or just two vertical J-pole or dipole antennas with adjustable ball top capacitor.
3. generator from 1W to as much as you can find with regulated power and frequency level.
     ( Ham radio to repeat Dr James Corum Seneca Lake experiment  using 1.8MHz is OK) here:
      https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU?t=82
     https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/dlattach/attach/173369/image//
     https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg536259/#msg536259
    or here: https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg557079/#msg557079
    or here: https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/225/
4. receiver.( Ham radio transceiver is OK) later can be changed to a load e.g. 50 ohm or even lightbulb.


Wesley

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https://magstar.eu/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Nikola-Tesla-On-His-Work-With-Alternating-Currents-and-Their-Application-to-Wireless-Telgraphy-Telephony-and-Transmission-of-Power-Leland-I.-Anderson.pdf


page 62 excerpt: "A common experiment....."

[DavidWolff]

Here we have an interesting phenomena regarding 'energy extraction from Schumann Wave guide', so how did 'N Tesla' drag this huge amount of power from the sky down to earth in order to power his Pierce Arrow convertible and also being aware there were no Lithium ion Batteries around In the early 1900, Can you explain this Dr ?

DaveW

moderator note: no need to  quote entire text.

[stivep]

PART1 of an answer:

//phenomena regarding 'energy extraction from Schumann Wave guide', so how did 'N Tesla'
drag this huge amount of power from the sky down to earth in order to power his Pierce Arrow convertible /
DaveW

Researcher determines if there is a relationship between two or more variables and doesn't expect
to respond to a question formulated by a music or poetry fan not familiar at all, with subject he/she is  questioning.
Observations and conducted background eliminates need to examine and correct the very basics
serving as an "alphabet" in  physics used for that examination.
An analphabet in physics can be very valuable member of  society in other areas too.
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With all due respect to you DaveW : 
1. Tesla talking to JP Morgan got an opportunity to build Tesla Tower and blow it in
    1896 talking to him again.
2. Tesla talking to Westinghouse got an opportunity to perform and survive and blow
    it, by giving  back his shares.(- percentage) when Westinghouse was in trouble.
     _{(In 1888, he sold his patents to industrialist George Westinghouse, whose Westinghouse Electric Company
      had quickly become an Edison competitor.)}

But  that action had nothing to do, with knowing a method of energy transfer-
At that time the Tesla Tower concept was Tesla's big failure creating disappointed investors .
Tesla Tower was just an air transformer and not so good aerial antenna.
It was a time when (Newton's 1686),Inverse Square Law was not yet applied to
electromagnetism in its infantry in 1900ts.- It could eliminate method using air as too lossy
and good only for short distance radio communication (using e.g. omnidirectional dipole )
as role of a diode (later used as a detector) made by German physicist Ferdinand Braun in 1874
was not quite understood and applied yet in ~1900.

Tesla and Marconi:
If we assume that Tesla tried to apply surface wave to send  energy from A to B
it would make Tesla's Tower compared to Marconi's Bolinas California plant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marconi-RCA_Bolinas_Transmitting_Station
But both in 1900ts had no idea about Waveguides _{Lord Reyliegh} 1897, inverse square law limitations, Schumann waveguide & resonances (1952).

So both tried to send energy from A to B being just pioneers  exposed to their own total failure of understanding 
todays physics about  flat 2D waveguide made of a conductive medium (e.g. earth or water) and dielectric medium(e.g. air)
https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU?t=82 _{year 1933, 1936, 2007, 2013.}
In easy analogy I would express it this way:
_{Having big name you got opportunities,  but  you  are not free from mistakes. So was Tesla and Marconi too.
Example:
Trump thanks to his money got contacts and opportunity to become USA President who
is now in criminal court for using opportunity to  use "public" - in created by him "flame".}

Wesley