Kapanadze and other FE discussion

[apecore]

........ but the strange thing here is Kapanadze has apparently claimed
that his setup can still work without an earth ground connection, but probably with poorer performance I would guess, and
Prentice also said he could connect a metal wire between the two ends of his long wire bypassing the ground hop, but it reduced
the performance, and Akula demonstrated in one of his earlier demonstration videos that his setup would still seemingly self run with
the earth ground wire not connected, but apparently with less power output capacity.

Don t forget,...  wire laying on the ground or metal parts near the ground do have ground connection due it has capacitance......which could explains why the performance is less.
The air is electrostatic...  so a conductor.
Again.... always a closed loop with earth,...  we only set things in motion....  vibrating ...  creating waves as Tesla said


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[Void]

Don t forget,...  wire laying on the ground or metal parts near the ground do have ground connection due it has capacitance......which could explains why the performance is less.
The air is electrostatic...  so a conductor.
Again.... always a closed loop with earth,...  we only set things in motion....  vibrating ...  creating waves as Tesla said
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Hi apecore. Yes, this is true, but realistically the capacitance to ground of an electronic circuit
like Kapandze and Akula have used, sitting on a chair or a table is relatively small (maybe 1000pF or less as
a rough guess). We are talking about circuit setups that need to produce say at least 50 to 100 Watts to be able to self
loop and keep running. Try an experiment where you must rapidly pulse charge a capacitor of say 1000pF or less
and try to draw at least 50 Watts average power off that capacitor. I think you would need a very, very high pulse frequency to achieve
that by conventional means, if you follow me.

[apecore]

Hi apecore. Yes, this is true, but realistically the capacitance to ground of an electronic circuit
like Kapandze and Akula have used, sitting on a chair or a table is relatively small (maybe 1000pF or less as
a rough guess). We are talking about circuit setups that need to produce say at least 50 to 100 Watts to be able to self
loop and keep running. Try an experiment where you must rapidly pulse charge a capacitor of say 1000pF or less
and try to draw at least 50 Watts average power off that capacitor. I think you would need a very, very high pulse frequency to achieve
that by conventional means, if you follow me.

Or a high voltage and less puls frequenty.

P = 0.5 x C x V^2 x f

[Void]

Here is something else to consider.
Kapanadze's 2004 demo video showed what appeared to be a very simple setup.
220V AC in connected to a power transformer and what looked like a diode full wave bridge rectifier.
A couple of devices on black heat sinks, which were probably transistors, his simple coil assembly, and 
a small tobacco can with some wires running into it from the various external components. I think maybe there was
possibly another external cap visible near the diode bridge if I remember correctly. Besides an external ground wire connection,
that was the extent of his 2004 setup.

if you look at the way the sparkgap glowed in that 2004 video demonstration, it was clear that the
sparkgap was conducting relatively low current, and it was probably running at a least a kHz and very
possibly a bit higher in the kHz range to appear the way it appears in that video. This leads me to think that the
two devices on the two black heat sinks were probably transistors used in a push pull arrangement to
drive something like a small flyback transformer inside the tobacco can. The type of glow on the
sparkgap looks very much like the glow you will see from a flyback transformer discharging through a sparkgap and
running roughly in the frequency range of about 15 to 20 kHz or thereabouts.

In some later Kapanadze demonstrations he showed a sparkgap that seem to discharge at a lot lower
frequency and it glowed white like it was conducting a lot larger current. This could possibly have been done
in these later demonstrations to try to throw people off. The 2004 demo seems more interesting to me
because Kapanadze didn't seem to be trying to hide things too much except for what was in the tobacco can.
Maybe Kapanadze does make some sort of home-made capacitor or other component which he kept hidden
in the tobacco can.

What I am trying to point out here is the sparkgap seen in the 2004 demonstration was definitely
discharging at a low current (the soft violet glow color) and looks very similar to a sparkgap driven
by a simple flyback driver in the range of 15kHz to 25 kHz or so. In other words, the sparkgap looks like it
was probably driven by a typical flyback driver or some other very similar type of HV transformer driver.

Simple circuit setup.
220V at 50 Hz in.
Probably a flyback driver or very similar driving the sparkgap at low current. The flyback transofrmer may have been in the tobacco can (it would fit with no problem).
Maybe something else hidden in the tobacco can. Maybe a homemade capacitor as some people have speculated, or some other mystery component.
An earth ground connection.

That's all there was to it. There wasn't a whole lot of room in the tobacco can for much else.
Again I understand why many think it must be fake. There just wasn't a whole lot there.
However, if it is not fake, then it boggles the mind.
Such a simple setup with the sparkgap only conducting very low current, yet it apparently self ran
and could apparently power five 1 kW light bulbs at least fairly brightly while self running.
This is why I say that if it really works it may well be working on a principle that is as yet not understood.

[Void]

Or a high voltage and less puls frequenty.

P = 0.5 x C x V^2 x f

The voltage would have to be very high. Also, we are not likely really talking about 1000pF,
as only certain wires or coils had high voltage on them, The capacitance to earth from
high voltage wires or coils was probably a fair bit less I would think. Akula showed in that
demo I mentioned that he could light some bulbs as well as self run without an earth ground wire connected. 
If it was legit, at any rate it seems something way out of the ordinary was occurring, whatever it may be.
I think we should be able to at least agree on that.

Prentice seems to have taken a bit different approach back in 1923, but given the general similarities to Kapanadze's setup
it may possibly work on the same mysterious principle (if they really work).