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Kapanadze and other FE discussion

Started by stivep, May 26, 2018, 01:48:55 PM

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Hoppy

Quote from: stivep on August 18, 2018, 06:25:51 AM
in article
it is mentioned     
there is no circuit if there is no load.
there is no circuit if the load belongs to  not your  loop
there is no  circuit if your loop in test  is not connected to the phase
in my case there is no inductive load in circuit with phase.
in my case there is no three phase
http://www.erlphase.com/downloads/application_notes/Understanding_Sub_Harmonics.pdf

In London You can have  CT1 powering 1 building only and next to it another CT2 powering another building
Both loops will never see each other right?

Wesley
Wesley,
Is it an SWER system? If it is then there is a power and voltage drop in each section.

Void

Quote from: stivep on August 17, 2018, 01:25:17 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddy_current
Picture from below :
https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=505

Wesley

Hi Wesley. You are still misunderstanding me, although I have already clarified the matter.
I was just pointing out that those currents do not form a closed current loop with the power source.
I don't think reasonably there is any way that what I am saying can be misunderstood.

Likewise the secondary winding on a transformer will have a current flowing on it between the secondary
winding's ends if connected together, but they do not form any sort of closed current loop back to the primary.
The secondary winding interacts with the primary via a magnetic field. This is all I am saying, and I think it should be
reasonably clear enough even to people who may have little understanding of electrical systems and electronics.

stivep

Quote from: Hoppy on August 18, 2018, 06:56:55 AM
Wesley,
Is it an SWER system? If it is then there is a power and voltage drop in each section.
No  I assume it is not.

http://scholarsmine.mst.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6061&context=masters_theses

Maybe you can accept  fact that most of measurement was made prior to re connection/ however
that should not matter if you read Loop explanation from above

Wesley

Void

Quote from: stivep on August 18, 2018, 07:27:15 AM
"magnetic field" is perfectly valid as a description of either - both the magnetic flux density and the magnetic field density are examples of a magnetic field.
And just using "magnetic field" is a lot simpler
However  what you referring to :

density or field,

-and how Eddy current relates to your statement?
a changing magnetic field induces an electromagnetic force in a conductor.
but you have been referring to Eddy Currents, did not?
Correct me please
Wesley

Hi Wesley. Yes, and I have explained my point in detail already. :)
As I have said, I think what I have already stated was more than clear enough. :)
No worries at all if you still don't understand. :)


Void

A suggestion for anyone who is going to do these types of experiments,  if you don't at least have a
basic understanding about standing waves, I would suggest you read up on standing waves, and nodes and anti-nodes,
and have at least a basic understanding of these concepts as they apply to wires/transmission lines. 

Resonance is a special case of standing waves where the developed standing wave nodes and anti-nodes
will correspond closely with the ends of a wire or coil, or at fractional intervals along the wire or coil such as
at 1/4 wave or 1/2 wave intervals.

Something to consider:
Frank Prentice stated he operated at a frequency of around 500 kHz, and said his long wire between his two earth ground
points was about 0.5 miles long (0.8 km). The wavelength of 500 kHz is 600 meters (0.6 km) or about 0.4 miles. So Frank
Prentice had a distance of more than a full wavelength between his two earth ground connections. Prentice claimed to have
measured a COP of about 6 when powering a bank of light bulbs at the output of his receiving loop antenna. He used a sparkgap
at the far end of his long wire, and also used tuning capacitors to tune the long wire for exact resonance at the frequency of operation.

The wavelength for 14 Hz (if I didn't make an error)  is about 13,297 miles or 21,400 km. :)
The diameter of the earth at the equator is apparently about 12,500 km.
So, you have a problem. However in patent # US9564268, they claim (emphasis on the word claim) that coils tuned for resonance
at very low frequencies such as below 200 Hz, with a single earth ground connection point, can still take advantage of low frequency earth resonances.
That may possibly be a way to get around this very large wavelength problem. A possible step in the right direction. :)

How could this work? From what I recall of antenna theory, which is not extensive, a quarter wave resonating wire or coil has quarter wave resonance in the wire or coil,
and when connected to the earth through a ground connection, also creates a matching quarter wave resonant 'image' in the ground.
Essentially what this means from my understanding is we end up with the equivalent of a half wave resonant system, which is resonating both in the coil *and in the ground*
at the resonant frequency you are tuned to. You are forcing currents in the ground at your resonant operating frequency.
Tesla coils typically are operated at 1/4 wave resonance. Are you seeing the 'potential' and possible benefits now of Tesla's approach?
I believe Tesla was doing pretty much the exact same sort of thing with his magnifying transmitter experiments.

This is not at all to take away from any experiments with two earth grounds that anyone may want to try, I am just pointing out
some potential hurdles and how the tesla coil (really any quarter wave resonant coil) may get around these hurdles. Also, keep in mind that
Kapanadze said his system is based on Tesla's work, although whether it really is or not is anyone's guess.
Kapanadze's devices could possibly be based on a different principle.