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Kapanadze and other FE discussion

Started by stivep, May 26, 2018, 01:48:55 PM

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arhitrade

ramset, the error of your analysis is to differentiate UL = dLI/dt. Gorchilin doesn't do that.

arhitrade

True, L depends on t, but it is not necessary to differentiate it :)
Otherwise, this leads to an error that occurred at ramset.

ramset

This is exactly why Smudges  paper  was shared , for discussion and clear understanding , I have sent him a note .EDIT TO ADD FOR REFERENCE TO THIS DISCUSSION

as already written before,
RE  Gorchilin claims...here is a quick paper from Smudge on the Theoretical aspects of the claim ,not to say that in  Practice actual events...are to be ruled out ?
apparently the math for the theory part has huge issues .
respectfully
Chet K...ps still sorting vendors for Cook materials

and also Melnlnchenko investigation is in progress[for some reason link not transferring yet ? ... (https://overunity.com/Themes/default/images/icons/clip.gif) Making sense of Gorchilin.pdf
....(32.01 kB - downloaded 39 times.).
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

Smudge

Quote from: arhitrade on December 18, 2018, 03:54:01 AM
True, L depends on t, but it is not necessary to differentiate it :)
Otherwise, this leads to an error that occurred at ramset.
Induced voltage is proportional to rate-of-change of flux, and since flux=L*I/N it is proportional to the rate-of-change of the product L*I.  Normally L is a constant so U=-L*dI/dt is correct (the manner in which Gorchelin sums the voltages that negative sign disappears).  But when L is not constant then U=-d(L*I)/dt is the correct version to use.  Gorchelin is in error.  If you believe otherwise please explain why.
Smudge

tinman

Quote from: Smudge on December 18, 2018, 04:27:39 AM
Induced voltage is proportional to rate-of-change of flux, and since flux=L*I/N it is proportional to the rate-of-change of the product L*I.  Normally L is a constant so U=-L*dI/dt is correct (the manner in which Gorchelin sums the voltages that negative sign disappears).  But when L is not constant then U=-d(L*I)/dt is the correct version to use.  Gorchelin is in error.  If you believe otherwise please explain why.
Smudge

i dont agree with that.

Induced voltage is proportional to the rate of change of the electric field,not the magnetic field.
The magnetic field is a result/bi-product of current flow,and so voltage must exist prior to any magnetic field or magnetic flux.


Brad