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Kapanadze and other FE discussion

Started by stivep, May 26, 2018, 01:48:55 PM

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stivep

Quote from: Sergh on October 04, 2023, 06:35:29 AM
DIY Project: Using a discharge in water to propel a rocket:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8SKce1OneE

Another videos the same autor:

https://www.youtube.com/@The141335/videos
The peculiarity is that the discharge gap in the water is initially short-circuited with a thin wire or foil. This is done because it is difficult to achieve breakdown in water at a relatively low voltage. Even at a voltage of 10 kilovolts, breakdown occurs at a distance of less than a millimeter. Dr Jaynes also talks about this problem in the video at Wesley's links. Kolbacict wrote here that he also encountered this problem. This is extremely inconvenient if you have relatively low-voltage capacitors at your disposal. Therefore, a jumper made of a thin conductor is used, which burns out and initiates an arc.
There was such a topic  "explosion of thin wires in water", they also wrote that there was an anomalous release of energy.
I delayed my response due to lack of time.
You gained a lot as an educated responder. https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582685/#msg582685
I was under impression that it is  entire team  analyzing, composing, editing your text.
Percentage wise it is not impossible but rare and uncommon  to an average fellows from Russia like ~100ppm.
If so, - Far  Eastern guys are really in fear.
If not - then  this is  the best  compliment  I could compose to you so far.
Keep it this way.
_________________________________________________

I'll try to use appropriate format for explanation:
In regards to https://youtu.be/x8SKce1OneE?t=186
K2CO3 - used to make   explosives, fertilizers, a pH regulator.
Potassium Carbonate,  is soluble in water used in video instead of aluminum foil as a fuse.
shows much grater performance up to 43m.
So in case of Black Sea the need for a man made fuse is eliminated.( as shown in the video)
-applies to Azov Sea with some difficulty - its salinity is  only 11ppm.

Black Sea salinity is  18 ppm,- translated to conductivity must include temperature variation.
global average ocean salinity = 3.5%. (Every kilogram of seawater has approximately 35 gr.)
Surface conductivity  is here: https://earth-planets-space.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s40623-017-0739-7
- important mainly  from "A  to B" stand point. Of course Brewster Angle and frequency used is not a problem.
We do not know K2CO3 proportions used in the video, but it correlates with 
mentioned gain (manifested in the form of rapid reaction) - that is much stronger than with use of aluminum foil.\ as a fuse.
- Very interesting and I may comment on it much  more .

Strong bonds /weak bonds are explained here: http://chemsite.lsrhs.net/chemkinetics/strong
Hydrogen  bond is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_bond
QuoteBond strength Hydrogen bonds can vary in strength from weak (1–2 kJ/mol) to strong (161.5 kJ/mol
Quotestronger than a van der Waals interaction, and weaker than fully covalent or ionic bonds
but its nature is electrostatic.

I'm not sure how accurate is N.Graneau investigation  but practical  experience in any case (e.g. video of  Dr Jaynes
https://youtu.be/qkLGSCXOxi8?t=852 , other videos and  articles  stands for the reality of the effect.
I'm not sure if you are questioning the magnitude of the process but that  lies strictly in the range/brackets of given application.


I'm sorry if I didn't address all of your questions and concerns.
Lack of time.  But yes all of the bad guys representing regime formed out there will not be served.
Wesley

seychelles

THIS IS WHAT I GET FROM THE KAPA CIRCUIT. IT WORKS ON THE PRINCIPLE OF A VENTURI AS AS PER ILLUSTRATION.
BUT THE ELECTRICAL VENTURI HAS TO BE PLACED DIRECTLY FROM THE EARTH CONDUCTOR ROD AND BE AS A PULL NOT
PUSH SITUATION. THE MIDDLE IS CONNECTED TO THE EARTH CONDUCTOR ROD THE OUTPUT TO THE LOAD DIRECTLY AND THE MAIN INPUT TO THE APPROPRIATE ELECTRICAL CIRCUIT.

stivep

on the subject   discussed for the past few pages now:
Dr Janes.
https://youtu.be/qkLGSCXOxi8?t=732

QuoteThis paper reports the first experimental results in which the kinetic energy of cold fog, generated
in a water arc plasma, exceeds the electrical energy supplied to form and maintain the arc.
The cold fog explosion is produced by breaking down a small quantity of liquid water
\cambridge.org\arcliberated-chemical-energy-exceeds-electrical-input-energy\

QuoteThe 90-year history of unusually strong water arc explosions is reviewed.
Experimental observations leave little doubt that internal water energy is being liberated by the
sudden electrodynamic conversion of about one-third of the water to dense fog.

High-speed photography reveals that the fog expels itself from the water at supersonic velocities.
The loss of intermolecular bond energy in the conversion from liquid to fog must be the source of the explosion energy
\cambridge.org\arcliberated-chemical-energy-exceeds-electrical-input-energy\



QuoteThe strengths of the impulses scaled proportionally to the electrodynamic action integral.
For an arbitrarily chosen current pulse shape and magnitude,
the plasma explosion in SALTWATER is much more powerful than the action of a railgun.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0375960186901684
for comparison to rail gun used in  military:
QuoteRail guns could fire projectiles to intercept the incoming missiles.
Some scientists argue that rail guns could also protect Earth from rogue asteroids, by
firing high-velocity projectiles from orbit.
Upon impact, the projectiles would either destroy the incoming asteroid or change its trajectory.
\projectiles%20to%20intercept%20the,destroy
conclusion:
Energy  released "1 drop of water  in  the right proportion" is stronger (-proportionally!) than the rail gun energy (-proportionally!)

Water explosions were created by discharging a high-voltage capacitor bank through 3-8 mL of water.
The explosions' energies were measured by using them to launch a projectile into the air and
extrapolating the explosion's average velocity from the height to which the projectile ascended.
It was found that water explosions do in fact release energy and can have efficiencies of greater than unity;
the energy released during the explosions is likely due to the difference between the heat capacities of bulk water and fog.
These results allude to the possibility of harnessing water explosions to perform useful work.
Reference_Material/Electrolysis_Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown

original article was  published  in journal of very much prominent organization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institution_of_Electrical_Engineers
Article title:
THE ANOMALOUS STRENGTH OF COLD FOG EXPLOSIONS CAUSED BY HIGH CURRENT WATER ARCS
N. Graneau _Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Graneau Explosions


Note:
greater than unity; means energy  delivered to the system + energy released in the process is >> than energy  delivered to the system
Analogy: energy used to open the  valve  on the water pipe where water comes from the river.

Wesley

forest

This fog is HHO or in other words : water molecule isomer which is gaseus at normal temperature, no secret except the method of conversion

Sergh

Quote from: stivep on October 08, 2023, 11:09:54 PM
conclusion:
Energy  released "1 drop of water  in  the right proportion" is stronger (-proportionally!) than the rail gun energy (-proportionally!)

It was found that water explosions do in fact release energy and can have efficiencies of greater than unity;

Wesley, I'm skeptical about this.

If water could explode, then during the first test atomic explosion in the ocean, the energy of all the water would turn our planet into interstellar dust.

  In your videos, people use capacitors that are too large, and they add water as a filler substance. For example, in a vacuum the discharge is not so strong due to the fact that there is nothing to evaporate and nothing to create big pressure after discharge.
Quote from: Willy on October 09, 2023, 04:13:31 PM
High current water arcs as described in the materials.
Is absolute current important?
There is such a thing as "current density":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_density

If you take a nanoneedle, then the "High Current" on it will be from 1 ampere of the absolute value of the current.


To the entire community:

When you think about overunity, you need to imagine what the moment will look like when overunity is achieved.

What will happen? Why energy can't increase indefinitely? What is the reason why a chain reaction does not begin, involving an increasing amount of energy in the process?