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Overunity Machines Forum



New discovery suggest that permanent magnet motors might be possible

Started by Low-Q, September 26, 2018, 11:53:45 AM

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Belfior

Quote from: Floor on October 15, 2018, 07:49:37 PM

Bifilar.... your responce

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"Well I think it depends what your intentions are? If you want to stay alive you don't tell anybody about it and you just grind bitcoins in your garage with your free electricity."
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Bench proof or not depends on ones intentions ? non secquiter or what ?

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6v9zkz

I kinda read it as "how much proof does one need?" and the question actually was (or so I believe) "is this bench proof?"

I have to say that I am not the person to answer that. I can as always give you my opinion or brain farts that come to my mind :)

1. I have no clue what is the thing that is being proven here. That magnets in certain angles do not repel or attract?
2. Why does it always have to be a 7 ton truck that is used to prove something? You can easily lose something in the friction or other losses
3. Could something else be used like a pendulum with a magnet that just passes the 2 upright magnets when they are in a certain angle?
4. If the pendulum works, it is still a long way from a self looped machine.
5. Using time to prove OU exists by itself is a bit of a waste in my opinion. Aim straight for the self looped machine and the proof will be inherit in it

telecom

@Floor
When you lift the bottle up with your finger, it doesn't necessarily mean that
you are applying a force equal to the weight of the bottle.
The force can be bigger, it this case you create an acceleration according to the second law.
You need to make a bottle to push the SL forward, then you will know the required force.
Regards

Belfior

Quote from: telecom on October 16, 2018, 10:30:08 PM
@Floor
When you lift the bottle up with your finger, it doesn't necessarily mean that
you are applying a force equal to the weight of the bottle.
The force can be bigger, it this case you create an acceleration according to the second law.
You need to make a bottle to push the SL forward, then you will know the required force.
Regards

That was the point I was trying to make earlier.

@Floor

Not trying to pee in your cerial here! This is constructive critisim!

Floor



Quote from: telecom on October 16, 2018, 10:30:08 PM

When you lift the bottle up with your finger, it doesn't necessarily mean that
you are applying a force equal to the weight of the bottle.
The force can be bigger, it this case you create an acceleration according to the second law.
You need to make a bottle to push the SL forward, then you will know the required force.
Regards


             "The force can be bigger"
                      Wrong.....  can not be and  is not bigger. and monkeys might fly out of your butt to.

The Force needed to lift the SL weight applied starts at 105 grams and decreases as RO rotates... when RO is allowed
to rotate under the force of the RO weight as SL weight is lifted..

    "in this case you create an acceleration according to the second law."

Wrong.... Input (by lifting SL)and output (by RO weight falling) CAN BE simultaneous BUT DO NOT NEED TO BE.
If RO is NOT allowed to rotate by force of the RO weight (it remains at 90 deg.), as the SL weight is lifted,
the  lifting force is constant at 105 grams through out the 22 degrees of lifting.  period.   

This lifting of SL  is 22 / 40 of the distance the RO weight is lifted when the SL weight falls.

If after SL is lifted  it (SL)  is gradually lowered.... It will still cause the lifting of the RO weight.  I was as careful to calibrate
every thing so that this would remain so.

Your considerations of acceleration  are a misdirection.


telecom

Quote from: Floor on October 18, 2018, 06:09:26 PM


             "The force can be bigger"
                      Wrong.....  can not be and  is not bigger. and monkeys might fly out of your butt to.

The Force needed to lift the SL weight applied starts at 105 grams and decreases as RO rotates... when RO is allowed
to rotate under the force of the RO weight as SL weight is lifted..

    "in this case you create an acceleration according to the second law."

Wrong.... Input (by lifting SL)and output (by RO weight falling) CAN BE simultaneous BUT DO NOT NEED TO BE.
If RO is NOT allowed to rotate by force of the RO weight (it remains at 90 deg.), as the SL weight is lifted,
the  lifting force is constant at 105 grams through out the 22 degrees of lifting.  period.   

This lifting of SL  is 22 / 40 of the distance the RO weight is lifted when the SL weight falls.

If after SL is lifted  it (SL)  is gradually lowered.... It will still cause the lifting of the RO weight.  I was as careful to calibrate
every thing so that this would remain so.

Your considerations of acceleration  are a misdirection.
I'm wrong most of the time, and the main reason in this case being the difficulty
of clearly seeing what actually takes place in your setup.
What would really help, is a clear diagram of the apparatus, indicating polarities of the magnets, and step by step sequence of the interaction.
I'm sure that with your drafting skills this won't be that hard to produce.
Then it will be easier to understand what actually happens there.
Best regards