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New discovery suggest that permanent magnet motors might be possible

Started by Low-Q, September 26, 2018, 11:53:45 AM

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onepower

F6FLT
QuoteUnfortunately, the facts deny what you say.
Where does the energy you currently use come from? What makes it easy for you to communicate with anyone everywhere? With what do you travel around the planet? Why are you talking about "electric or magnetic fields",  "forces", "energy", "momentum", "power"?
Are all these devices you use and these concepts you handle, the products of scientists and engineers, or of do-it-yourselfers and handymen?

Not to imply too much but a majority of the patents which have benefited mankind were made by people with little or no formal expertise in the field they mastered.

QuoteA new idea appears when it is mature, that is, when the context of human knowledge has reached a point from which it can emerge in the minds of some, the best prepared, so-called "pioneers" (for example in electricity, Coulomb, Ampère, Ørsted, Faraday, Maxwell, Tesla).
As Louis Pasteur said, "luck favours prepared minds".
Those who innovate are those who know the state of the art, and are therefore able in their observations to differentiate between what is well known and what is new, or are able to find new ways to explore rather than re-invent hot water.

I agree, however I know many very well educated people who have never accomplished anything in their field of expertise. It would seem to be a combination of attributes such as understanding and knowledge but just as important creativity, curiosity and an open mind. Inventors invent things regardless of their occupation... the rest simply follow along for the ride.


QuoteWhen I see hundreds of posts just on the single wire transmission, I feel like I see children playing a puzzle for which they obviously don't have all the pieces. When you have an electronics engineer background, you know that any device is always inductively or capacitively coupled to its environment, even a simple wire, and you know whether you can neglect its inductance or capacitance, or not. In this case, the components at the wire termination are always more or less coupled to the ground or the generator, so we have a conventional circuit looped by a capacity in the order of pF, and the energy is well drawn from the generator (I myself wasted my time doing the measurement).
The unprepared minds do not see any capacitor, so they shout "Miracle!", unable like children to understand that they are missing parts. The prepared minds include capacities in their schema, and perfectly model single wire transmission with LTspice.

That is a good example how many can be mislead however it is not as cut and dry as you would suggest. For example I built a circuit with what you imply is just a capacitor and I made one plate cease to exist, to disappear. In another instance one capacitor plate was a gas having mobility in which case the plate could change in volume and geometry. Sure it's just a capacitor in some peoples mind who seem to have a simplistic view of things. However my curiosity was when does a capacitor cease to act like one which is a very different story.

Now imagine your single wire capacitor plate has a core of high explosive and once charged to a very high potential was detonated. Now the vaporized capacitor plate is fluid and it is expanding at ballistic velocities, what then?. Is it still just a simple old capacitor plate or should we consider the fact that it now has a wave like properties, high velocity and changes in volume and geometry?. So no it's not just a simple capacitor to those who have the expertise and creativity to think outside the box.

The question is not always how are all these things the same as other things but under what circumstances are they not the same. Under what circumstances does something cease to act as we would expect it should?. That is creativity, invention and a much more difficult proposition than the same old thing in my opinion.

Floor

Quote from: Belfior on October 14, 2018, 09:55:31 AM
If you have an intuitive idea that is out of the normal scientific scope, just discus it with your friends and try to prove it on your bench.

Is this a bench proof or do I need highf def video and replication,
or is this fudamental enough / obvious enough to speak for itself ?

Not trying to be a smart a___s here... just asking for opinion.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59r978




Belfior

Quote from: Floor on October 14, 2018, 03:39:30 PM
Is this a bench proof or do I need highf def video and replication,
or is this fudamental enough / obvious enough to speak for itself ?

Not trying to be a smart a___s here... just asking for opinion.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59r978

Well I think it depends what your intentions are? If you want to stay alive you don't tell anybody about it and you just grind bitcoins in your garage with your free electricity.

Steven Greer has a template for publishing it and means to compensate you also.

If you just want to get rich you sell it to an energy company and they will put it on shelf for the next 100 years.

I want to end this slavery and start humanity's journey beyond this planet. Without trying to keep my nation on top of others or weaponizing the invention

F6FLT

Quote from: onepower on October 14, 2018, 03:25:53 PM
...For example I built a circuit with what you imply is just a capacitor and I made one plate cease to exist, to disappear. In another instance one capacitor plate was a gas having mobility in which case the plate could change in volume and geometry. Sure it's just a capacitor in some peoples mind who seem to have a simplistic view of things. However my curiosity was when does a capacitor cease to act like one which is a very different story.
Now imagine your single wire capacitor plate has a core of high explosive and once charged to a very high potential was detonated. Now the vaporized capacitor plate is fluid and it is expanding at ballistic velocities, what then?. Is it still just a simple old capacitor plate or should we consider the fact that it now has a wave like properties, high velocity and changes in volume and geometry?. So no it's not just a simple capacitor to those who have the expertise and creativity to think outside the box.

These experiments are very good ideas to try, at least it is funny. They enter the category "parametric device". This means that you change some values of the components.
The apparent novelty is only due to the fact that most of common devices don't use these methods and that ordinary formula that applies to common electronics devices seem to indicate extraordinary results. But I don't see them as real novelties. The analysis of such cases needs to forget electronics formula and to apply only physics laws by integrating data and parameters over time.

For instance the electronics formula E=1/2 * Q²/C can let you think that decreasing C will give you free extra energy in the capacitor. But you will be wrong. You must calculate the work of the electric force F=q.E on the electrons when you move the plates apart from each other in order to reduce the capacity. This mechanical energy will be exactly the "extra" energy that you retrieve inside the capacitor, but it has been spent to change C, not free! Same thing with parametric inductance (Steorn's motor mistake).

The idea to use explosions to change drastically a parameter is not new either ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosively_pumped_flux_compression_generator ). It's not easy to be revolutionary in physics because physicists are curious people and they always try to find loopholes in their theories to go further.

Quote
The question is not always how are all these things the same as other things but under what circumstances are they not the same. Under what circumstances does something cease to act as we would expect it should?. That is creativity, invention and a much more difficult proposition than the same old thing in my opinion.

The method is right. The implementation is much more difficult than we think. I don't count the number of times I thought I had a new idea, and physicists had been working on the subject long before, even for some, in the 19th century!  :'(
Nevertheless we have to try our luck...




Belfior

Quote from: F6FLT on October 14, 2018, 05:07:51 PM

The method is right. The implementation is much more difficult than we think. I don't count the number of times I thought I had a new idea, and physicists had been working on the subject long before, even for some, in the 19th century!  :'(
Nevertheless we have to try our luck...


I am a dumbass, but I come up with stuff every day and I write it in my journal. I mean ideas like how transmutation or what ever could work. Then few months pass and I find a study that has done exactly that. I thought I discovered saturable reactors, but they have been used since 1885 :( This gives me great pleasure, that I can come up with a new thing (new to me) and even if it turns out it was invented earlier, it assures me that I might have a chance in this free energy field.

Btw the Russians have done a lot of work on parametric oscillators and there are claims they were OU, but where can you get the papers and who will translate them :(