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How does overunity 'suppression' work if everyone knows about it ?

Started by postingsite, November 16, 2018, 08:50:25 PM

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lancaIV

" Problems hide in the lazyness of people to try something, ....""
Problems hide in the crazyness of people to do something,..."a1. un-/ a2 limited ! b1. un-/ b2. limited ?
                        Over-conume,Under-consume,Right-consume( fixed or variable !? WHY and WHEN by WHOM !?
How much/many is allowed by nature ethics,physics and political laws and their orders and by own actio/reactio experience ?
                          Minimum,Pessimum,Medium,Optimum,Maximum consume standart per capita                                                                                                          ,  global, local, personal own ,
                          Minimum,Pessimum,Medium,Optimum,Maximum power generation per capita

Are the  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000-watt_society  energetic numbers - per capita and hour -to seen as " must" or " personal minimum wish" as first step ? " energetic fingerprint "
Has the "autonomous engine" to be in the MW,KW or Watt scale ,portable(?),by fixed output or variable output by fix consumer load or variable consumer load ?
Is his lifestyle "stoneage" or " modern living" lifestyle : http://mtbest.net/
Prof. Bo Adamson view and philosophy related " low-e construction" ,somewhere traditional ,not architectural new , since centuries:  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_house
Is the "horse power"definition by internal combustion engine cars performance definition wrong,better torque in Newto*meter measurement,  following this standpoint :

http://www.engineair.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18&Itemid=12
How many KWp for electric car drives( with step down transmission ?), clearly velocity-max. and car weight dependant ?!
100% efficiency= O% lost,  total exergy and anergy recycle, 
beside matter/materie to energy restore surplus energy in matter/materie
What is the actual KWh- electricity generation "fair value" which each end consumer worldwide has in his availability ?10 US$cents,5US$cents,down to 1 US$cent per Kilowatt-hour by actual physics lab standart !?
What is the value from each initiator/investor NDA or device-patent/utility model application when the generation price of this device is not under 1US$cent/KWh : education, research&development investment : zero worth !
BE OLYMPIC,EUGENICAL: IT IS THE TAKING PART THAT COUNTS IN LIFE  ;)

Turbo

If your in the 2000 Watt society, you are clearly in the wrong place.
The resulting excess energy output of the first prototype will barely light an LED.
But it's a start.

lancaIV

Turbo, we all are in the "2000Watt society"- vision project, this is part from the European Union Nearly Zero then Net Zero and final  "Zero Energy"-society program !
From decentral ( consumer center view)  network=grid power plants to local, in situ, own home  power generators =off grid ! Included in the program is the decrease from Wattpeak/-average demand from energy converting devices ! We all makes active  part from the international Kyoto, Kobenhaven, Paris convention contract targets and life and habits changing evolution.
Some ideas ( I am not member or in comercial interests with them)
http://mtbest.net/   http://mtbest.net/energy_efficiency.html
                                      above the last paragraph < 0,8 KWh per day electricity : capita per household ?

https://www.tamera.org/

Turbo

I was referring to the excess energy produced by device.
Not even 'OU' but 'free energy' none the less.
It's a long way between lighting an LED and a 2 KiloWatt generator.
It involves small steps, one LED, two LED's ten LED's a hundred LED's and so on.
Not 1 LED <-> 2 KiloWatt.
People who talk in KiloWatts can be skipped immediately.
Those numbers are just too large.
Remember Volta and his first 1,5 Volt Cell.

lancaIV

Turbo, you define that there would be a need about a 2000Watt/2KW generator, neither I nor the Paul-Scherer-Institute write or wrote anything same ! 2000 Watt per hour and for each consumer worldwide means the primary energy consume  for a " global balanced energy industrial society"( independant if real consense or seen this by overpopulation in consense).
2000 Watt , too much ? Comparison : 25 bicycle- wheel generator biker generating 80 average Watt/hour
and this 24/365 per capita.The alimentation for this 25 bikers is more costly than the development from a unbonded energy converter, with human-necessities free permant work potential and with only 1/1000 space volume need.
See the calculation of this "2000Watt": house  500W/ transport 500W/       more industry related: 1000W

Taking the mtbest/Chalko 800 Wh electricity consume per day number and dividing this  by 24 and 2 consumer :800/24/2=                             
                   "17Watt Chalko society vision" ( okay more solar heat et cet.)  and this only for the home part
                                    How small the "Lorentz-Force converter" can become ?
E(relativ)= m( from M1-M2) * cv2. Which Halbwert( decay)-Zeit if v not c , how many % near c the frequency ?How accumulate vectorial and scalarial acceleration or vectorial and scalarial decelerating ?
Partial "turbonetics" included, expression from D. Thomas Cosby ( r.i.p.)