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Overunity Machines Forum



idea for a motor using Biefeld-Brown effect

Started by Belfior, January 11, 2019, 01:52:44 PM

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Belfior

Brown had his gravitators, that were made of insulated cells, so how does the "ionic wind" blow between the insulated plates?

Like figure 8 on this page

http://www.rexresearch.com/gravitor/gravitor.htm

I hate it when there are lots of experiments done with these devices in vacuum and the opposition can just say "ionic wind" that not enough to account for the force or can't pass trough insulators. I think the agenda is to move the debate into ionic wind and then disprove ionic wind. The actual point is that we do not care. If the motor turns with practically no input inside atmosphere, then maybe we need to build the motors inside our atmosphere?

Very little input required to keep the caps full and a net force appears. That is the meat here.

You can bet your ass the US military tested this in space.


Belfior

Totally missed the rotary motor Brown has already invented. Same web site and figure 11

http://www.rexresearch.com/gravitor/gravitor.htm

figures 12 and 13 are detailed views of the rotary motor.


lancaIV

Belfior,  many thanks for the more informative description :
  " empire cloth" ~  https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakelit
and E= mg

F6FLT

The first lifters were built at the beginning of the 20th century. JL Naudin popularized the subject in the early 2000s, with many fantasies about anti-gravity that were of course never confirmed.

I made my own lifter. I powered it with the HV of a CRT, and really, it works. But by isolating the upper wire, the effect disappears, proof that the principle is not a capacitive effect of an asymmetric capacitor. This is confirmed by the fact that DC current flows from one electrode to the other one. Even a beginner in electricity understand that.

The thin upper wire causes a large electric field gradient that attracts polar molecules from air. These in contact with the wire give or take an electron. Once charged, they are accelerated to the large electrode. The reaction causes the lifter to be propelled in the opposite direction.

The explanation has been known for a long time and is perfectly conventional. It seems that newbies are rediscovering the lifter and are surprised by ordinary things, referring to dubious sites and mixing lifters and asymmetric capacitors with solid dielectric, which are another technology.


lancaIV

F6FLT,  charge source : medium density?
             charge source : medium distance ?
2x 2x2x2 inches N52 cubes in 25 cm distance and the same cubes and "your finger between" by 1 cm distance !
                                   :)       
                       
                                appropriate Technology and devices use  !