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A very easy method for overunity and its the real deal as they say.

Started by stevensrd1, January 16, 2019, 12:51:21 AM

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telecom

Quote from: F6FLT on January 25, 2019, 05:33:42 AM
I agree. The height of ignorance can be seen in explanations that take some principles of physics (gravity acting on water, vacuum sucking, pressure...) to conclude that energy is not conserved.

This non-sense is not even a question of physics, but of pure logic and math. Any mechanical system can be described by a Lagrangian which by definition takes energy conservation as an operating principle. This description is fully compatible with a description by forces, weight, speed, pressure and so on, both descriptions are logically related and true or false together. It is therefore absurd to use classical reasoning with forces, weight, speed, gravity, pressure etc. to conclude that there is overunity, it's fake physics and mathematically false. 

The known laws of physics imply the energy conservation for reasons of pure logic and consistency of their internal formalism.
So
- either the known laws of physics apply, then you must suppose or reveal a hidden energy source from which an apparent overunity would originate,
- or the known laws of physics don't apply, and then you can't use them to prove overunity. Instead, you must provide undoubted experimental evidence, and then a new theory will have to be developed.


In the videos, there is no evidence that the outlet is higher than the inlet: end of the scientific analysis, there is no overunity until proof of the contrary.

You have to take atmospheric pressure into the equation. than nothing is violated.
1kgF/cm2.
Atmospheric pressure can lift mercury up to 760mm.
Since mercury is 13.6 times heavier than the water, water can be lifted up to
.76 m x 13.6 = 10.3 m.
So it can be lifted  10 m only by the atmospheric pressure.
It was discovered by Torricelli in 1643.
(This note is for you, physics warriors)

citfta

Quote from: telecom on January 25, 2019, 08:43:14 AM
You have to take atmospheric pressure into the equation. than nothing is violated.
1kgF/cm2.
Atmospheric pressure can lift mercury up to 760mm.
Since mercury is 13.6 times heavier than the water, water can be lifted up to
.76 m x 13.6 = 10.3 m.
So it can be lifted  10 m only by the atmospheric pressure.
It was discovered by Torricelli in 1643.
(This note is for you, physics warriors)

I don't consider myself a physics warrior.  But I spent 26 years as a volunteer firefighter.  Guess what they use to put out fires?  WATER!!  We had to pump water to put out the fires.  The principles of moving water against gravity are clearly known.  As you have correctly stated atmospheric pressure can raise water a total height of 10 meters if there is a complete vacuum at the top of the column of water.  But what you keep ignoring is that same air pressure is also trying to keep water from flowing down the discharge tube.  The only way to have an unbalanced condition that will let water flow out the discharge is if the discharge line has more vertical height than the intake line.  PERIOD!

Get you some soda straws and some plastic containers you can seal up and build something to prove I am wrong.

Carroll

memoryman

The lack of understanding of basic physics and math is what makes these posts so entertaining!
I suspect that there is a strong correlation between posters 'believing' in their idea of OU and 'faith' in a deity/god/spirituality.

citfta

Quote from: memoryman on January 25, 2019, 10:18:12 AM
The lack of understanding of basic physics and math is what makes these posts so entertaining!
I suspect that there is a strong correlation between posters 'believing' in their idea of OU and 'faith' in a deity/god/spirituality.


Well that is another very false assumption.  Most Christians like myself believe very strongly that the God who created this universe and all that is in it, also created it with very strict laws of how it would operate.  If that were not true then the universe would have  quickly fallen apart.  I am also quite sure there are very many things we don't understand about how it operates, so it is interesting to keep searching for what we don't know.  As I have posted before on this and other forums, nearly all the fields of modern scientific study were started by men that recognized that someone had to have set the rules and order for how things work.  The main stream media would love for you to believe that believing in a creator means you can't believe in science also.  That is a very BIG LIE.


Respectfully,
Carroll



F6FLT

Quote from: telecom on January 25, 2019, 08:43:14 AM
You have to take atmospheric pressure into the equation. than nothing is violated.
...
To get energy from anything is easy. A falling stone can produce energy. Two attracting magnets also.
The point was only "overunity", i.e an endless cycle.
When nothing is violated, there is no overunity.