Ambient cycle

[celso]

No!

Axergie is the developer of a product called as a thermodynamic solar colector.
I would like to get more information about it?
Who is seling or representing?

[lancaIV]

Hello,
www.larbombas.pt
they bought the "Axergie"-concept !

Tschau
          dL

[lancaIV]

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberische_Halbinsel

                                                 surface                               583,254 km²



1/100000 of the area at the southern tip is the British overseas territory Gibraltar






But I only take 1sqkm from the Peninsula,1/583 254 :


1 sqKm = 100 ha = 1000 mtr.x 1000 mtr. = 1 000 000 sqm




1 000 000 sqm / 20 sqm = 50 000 times x 100 KW generator installation
https://web.archive.org/web/20110817174850if_/http://www.airpower.co.il/PRODUCTS.htm


50 000 x 100 KW x 8766 hours x 0,9 ( improved efficiency,original 0,66 factor) = 4,5 GW x 8766 hours = 39 447 GW per annum

https://patents.google.com/patent/EP1841544A2








1 sqKm we can buy for 500 000 Euros ( 0,5 Euro/sqm) ,let us divide the investment / 10 years and giving 10% capital rent


                                             = 75 000 Euros per annum = ( 500 000 x 0,5  x 0,1 ) + 50 000




75 000 Euros / 39 447 GWh     or     75 000 Euros/ 39 447 000 MWh       or       75 000 Euros/ 39 447 000 000 KWh


= 7 500 000 Euro-cents/ 39 447 000 000 KWh = 7,5 Euro-cents/39 447 KW


= 0,0002 Euro-cent/KWh land costs part per KWh electricity use/selling !


when 2,5 Euro-cents/KWh the wind-energy grid input less than = 1/10 000 the land costs


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.roedl.de/themen/fokus-public-sector/2021-april/windkraft-eeg-2021


However, this always depends on the individual project and in particular (and despite the correction factor provided in the EEG) on the wind speed. For example,
with a wind yield of 13 million kWh per wind turbine and year, a value of 6 ct / kWh to be applied and a lease share of 5 percent of the proceeds, the lease payment would be 39,000 euros per wind turbine and year .


[ Vorsaetzliche Fehlkalkulation faellt wohl unter : "Hoehere Gewalt" 
(Vorsicht : Anwaltskanzleien/Geschaeftsfuehrerhaftung)    Handeln,(zu-)wider besseren Wissens !" ]

From 10-5 % land lease costs 2014 per KWh to 1/10 000 = 0,01 % land lease costs ! 2025 !

                 13 million KWh x 0,0002 Euro-cent/KWh = 2600 Euro-cents or 26 Euros


                 the lease payment would be (ancient :39,000 euros) now : 26 euros per wind turbine and year .

                                                                  100( 0) times less !







https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.lwk-niedersachsen.de/index.cfm/portal/57/nav/1251/article/23441.html


" ...... in addition to a standard minimum   lease of around 1,500 - 3,000 € / ha, depending on the location - is made dependent on the electricity yield.   ...... "

the standart minimum lease sum per annum we will decrease in Europe to 100 Euros/ha ( or 10 000 sqm)




                             39 447 000 000 KWh / 1 000 000 sqm = 39 447 KWh/sqm and annum
 
                             https://web.archive.org/web/20110817174850if_/http://www.airpower.co.il/PRODUCTS.htm
                                                              100 KW/20 sqm = 5 KW/sqm ( x 8766 or 24/365)



With increasing CO2 certification price the rural land for Biofuels plants growth use becomes unattractive + fallow aerea =


                                               20 % from rural land in (E.U.)Europe related


                    Europäische Union/Fläche                                              4.476.000 km²


http://www.habiter-autrement.org/12.energies/16_ener.htm  + www.oeko-energie.de  intelligent household + www.mtbest.net


preview 2050 : 3000 KWh electricity use per annum per private household (by given low-e- Standardization !)

                      100%   space + water heating + light,appliances,cooking electric consume included, e-car energy autonomous




                      3000 KWh / 39 447 KWh/sqm = less than 0,1 sqm per household energy generator area need


                                                                     alternatively store/placement : on house tect or in the cave




2050 low-e E.U.  society calculation :


[200 Mio- private households ( a 2,5 capita) x 3000 KWh p.a. electricity consume]/39 447 KWh/sqm


                        15 200 000 sqm or


                        15,2 sqKm  airpower generator area / 4.476.000 km² =       


                                         
                                               1/300 000 E.U. land area need


                                            Handeln,(zu-)wider besseren Wissens !




https://contest.techbriefs.com/2010/entries/sustainable-technologies/527  and airpower technology compared !


AirWatt. It can produce much more electrical power per unit area of land than solar, wind, or hydro power plants. Whereas solar works only during sunlight hours, the AirWatt power plant can usually run 24 hours per day in appropriate locations. AirWatt plants use atmospheric air as the heat source and evaporating water as the heat sink. The warm air is used to boil a refrigerant, which turns a turbine, and the water evaporation condenses the refrigerant.Our computer simulations of the thermodynamics and aerodynamics have already demonstrated that AirWatt functions well.




Now the target : industrial mass production


an industrial price/Kg example   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Kwid


$3,884. / [Curb weight 775 kg (1,709 lb) =     5 US$ per Kg selling price


https://web.archive.org/web/20110817174850if_/http://www.airpower.co.il/PRODUCTS.htm


100 KW generator assuming 5000 Euros "pure" production costs / 200 Kg weight from listed "900 Kg"


25  KW motor       assuming 1250 Euros "pure" production costs/    50 Kg


so an 100 KW airpower generator -ready to use/fob factory -  can be in the 15.-20.000 Euros selling price range (instead 95.000 US$)


                                                    150 - 200 Euros/KW installation


( 50 000 units a sqKm) x 15,2 sqKm =    760 000 units a 15.-20.000 Euros/unit   ,totally investment near 15 billions Euros

                                                                                                                      2021-2050 : 0,5 billion per year



15,2 sqKm land costs :                          7,6 mio Euros





                                  1 Euro-cent/KWh electricity generation possible ,CO2-free





                                                  Related windforce/-conversion calculation error/-s:


  https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.br.de/nachrichten/bayern/infraschall-aus-windkraft-ueberschaetzt-gruene-wollen-konsequenzen,SWYJwLd

                                            Study exaggerates infrasound more than 1,000 times         

[lancaIV]

Calculating with real world - 2021 view- numbers :

the Vale-Autonomous House- numbers :



1975 GB average 82 sqm space heating consume 12 900 KWh
When we look for the average house living area in GB we see over the last 70 years no great change :
        70-80 sqm average !



Assuming 70% average boiler/heater efficiency (1970-1975 ! : coal,oil,wood)

12 900 KWh x 0,7 = +- 9 000 KWh  ( attention : the now 18°-21°C in-house temperature demanded by law)



2021 low-e construction minimum standard : 20 Wp/sqm ~ 20 x 82 sqm x 1,5 ( heat season factor) = 2460 KWh


The Vale hot water energy consume 1900 KWh


But taking the no/low insulation space heating  9 000 KWh + 1 900 KWh warmwater heat energy :dividing with C.O.P. 6 heat pump = 10 900 KWh/6 = 1820 KWh electric

From Vale 1 400 KWh light,appliances,cooking electric consume and modern www.oeko-energie.de " intelligent household" 3 KWh per day electric consume (3 KWh x 365= 1100 KWh)

we get in total : 1820 KWh + 1100 KWh = 2920 KWh electricity consume per annum !

I calculate with 3000 KWh as average consume !



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1 Euro-cent per KWh electric generation :

in the airpower.co.il page is written : 3,4 US$-cents per KWh generation costs



by given condition : 95 000 US$/100 KW investment and 66% (3/1) conversion efficiency

20 000 €/100 KW or 24 000 US$/100 KW gives : (24 000/95 000) x 3,4 US$-cents = 0,253 x 3,4 US$-cents =
                near 1 Euro-cent per KWh electricity generation

               ( not including technical 0,66 to 0,9 improvement factor,included service/maintenance costs per KWh )

Similar aveurope.net development :
energy converter ,1 Euro-cent/KWh generation calculation ,prototype 375 €/KW costs

Prototyping is ever several times/by small parts thousands times (R&D) more expensive than later mass production !




Such energy converter will be the base for 1 Euro-cent/KWh generation price - 1 Euro-cent/KWh subsidy =
0 €/KWh electricity for CO2-from ambiental air-scrubber



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15,2 sqKm  airpower generator area / 4.476.000 km² =       
                         
                                               1/300 000 E.U. land area need

15,2 sqkm x 0,6 more efficient electric generator = under 10 sqKm

5 KW power per sqm,first stage

by this constructive condition ? :
https://www.sciencemag.org/sites/default/files/styles/article_main_large/public/carbon_16x9.jpg?itok=O5kHEGWT

10 KW power = 2 stages,15 KW power = 3 stages ,20 KW power = 4 stages  per sqm

       
                    physical:  less than   1/1 000 000 E.U. land area need


                                    Or off-shore sea-side,on pontons !






An E.U.-coutry example :


without "lower e-" thinking consume



https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.naturschutz-energiewende.de/aktuelles/flaechenverfuegbarkeit-fuer-die-energiewende/






According to the study, electricity consumption will rise to more than [/font][/size]1,000 terawatt hours in 2050, for which an installed capacity of up to 500 gigawatts of wind power and photovoltaic power would be required - about five to seven times what is already available today.


1000 TeraWatt hours/8766 hours = 114 GigaWatt installation = 114 000 MegaWatt 0r 114 000 000 KiloWatt


equates 1,14 Mio units 100 KW(5 KW/sqm) installations a 20 sqm ground area =  22,8 sqKm


Table 2 . Designated and free areas for the use of wind energy at the federal level (regional planning + land-use planning level)

Germany

Area (km²)                               357.385
Designated wind area (km²)          3.131
Share of land area (%)                  0.9%


End of 2017 free area (km²)          1,325
Share of free wind areas (%)         42.3%




                                  3.131 sqKm / 22,8 sqKm = 100 times the 2050 100 TeraWatt-hours wind generator area need


                                  or by given free land =  Share of land area (%)   0.9%

                                  100 x 100 TeraWatt-hours = 10 PetaWatt-hours generation potential

[lancaIV]

Calculation,as example, for Germany ( by given E.U.-Standart-ization 2050 ) average electricity consume assumption per household 2050 :


average 1600 KWh electricity ( to heatpump,"friction- or induction- or IR-" heater with all minimum C.O.P. greater 5)for space/water heating and up to 1400 KWh for appliances,light,cooking = 3000 KWh per year

Demand : since 2020 in E.U. area  for new building construction (>50 sqm) energy standart : 20 Wp/sqm space heat max.  !




35 000 000 private households a 3000 KWh = 105.000.000.000 KWh per annum total or 105 TWh

9x Overestimated study number :

According to the study, electricity consumption will rise to more than 1,000 terawatt hours in 2050, for which an installed capacity of up to 500 gigawatts of wind power and photovoltaic power would be required - about five to seven times what is already available today.



105.000.000.000 KWh/39.447 KWh per sqm = 2,67 sqKm energy parc about   " Designated wind area (km²)  3131 "


less than 1/1000 from 0,9% of     357.385 sqKm  for wind generator denominated land !



prime rate credit ( 1.Rang)/sub-prime rate credit (2.Rang) / junk credit (Rang-los) : average 90% value discount


https://www.jornaldenegocios.pt/empresas/banca---financas/detalhe/venda-do-credito-malparado-do-novo-banco-deve-ter-desconto-de-90



Rural land as wind-conversion /photo-voltaic  area  :


                              U.S.A. 1 US$/sqm ( the buy ? cash or by uncovered credit ?! )

https://www.agriculture.com/news/business/12-best-farml-bargains_5-ar42186
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acre#:~:text=10%20External%20links-,Description,hectares)%20(see%20below). 1 acre = 4047 sqm


In Germany rural land for less than 1 Euro/sqm available     : https://www.immopool.de/  Land-/Forstwirtschaft

For Europe rural ground price :
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.agrarheute.com/management/finanzen/bodenpreise-europa-hektar-fuer-bauern-teuersten-580412%23:~:text%3DBodenpreise%253A%2520Das%2520kostet%2520der%2520Hektar%2520Ackerland%2520die%2520Bauern%2520in%2520Europa,-%25C2%25A9%2520stock.adobe%26text%3DDie%2520Bodenpreise%2520in%2520der%2520EU,Euro%2520in%2520einigen%2520deutschen%2520Regionen.%26text%3DDeutschland%2520geh%25C3%25B6rt%2520zusammen%2520mit%2520Italien,L%25C3%25A4ndern%2520mit%2520den%2520teuersten%2520Ackerb%25C3%25B6den.

https://b5wrzpukp4ach5phnw35orfbri-ac4c6men2g7xr2a-www-agrarheute-com.translate.goog/media/styles/lightbox/public/2021-04/kaufpreise_ackerland_europa.png

France 643.801 km²  6000 Euros/ha + Spain 505.990 km²   13 000 Euros/ha = average 1 Euro/sqm 

net income France/Spain https://www.laenderdaten.info/durchschnittseinkommen.php


habitants density France/Spain https://www.laenderdaten.info/bevoelkerungsdichte.php


and because these "facts" the rural land in France  is 1/2 times cheaper than in Spain     ! LOGIC ! Price : cash or uncovered credit ?

Spain rural land  is ,by France economic numbers, 100% overprized ! Minimum price 50% decrease preview !

Germany rural land is,by France economic numbers, 500 % overprized ! Minimum price 80% decrease preview !







We can assume ,less "windfall profitable subsidary"( in Germany EEG), that the E.U. rural land price in average falls back to < 1 Euro/sqm !


one negative factor : the overpriced grid-fee gains :


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.windkraft-journal.de/tag/netzentgelte
The network fee for a typical household customer for the network operators regulated by the Federal Network Agency is 7.65 ct / kWh in 2021 compared to 7.60 ct / kWh in the previous year (+0.7 percent).

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stromgestehungskosten#/media/Datei:Stromgestehungskosten_Deutschland_2018_laut_Fraunhofer_ISE.png


as financial part from total "service" price :


With currently 33.82 cents from the basic supplier and 22.77 cents from the cheapest alternative provider, consumers in this country pay the highest electricity prices per kilowatt hour in all of Europe.

25% commercial electricity generation (fob plant)+ 25 %net-fee + 50% extra fees the private household has to pay if grid-dependent !




Compared : US b2b market average electricity price about 5,5 US$-cents !





1 Euro a 5% land lease per annum = 0,05 Euro/sqm/year   divided    39447 KWh/sqm = 0,0000012 Euro/KWh land lease costs(5 KW/sqm)






Repeating : for 2050 ( without other E.U.-exit happenings ! )


200 Mio- private households  a 2,5 capita(= 500 000 000 habitants )

  x 3000 KWh p.a. electricity consume/39 447 KWh/sqm               


         15 200 000 sqm or                        15,2 sqKm  airpower generator area / 4.476.000 km² =           
                                   
                                                       1/300 000 E.U. land area need


                                                            for        0,0000012 Euro/KWh land lease costs
                                             
                                                      or   for        0,0000006 Euro/KWh land lease costs( 2x 5 KW/sqm)



                                          https://web.archive.org/web/20110817174850if_/http://www.airpower.co.il/PRODUCTS.htm


                                          100 KW unit : Length 250 cm and  Diameter/Height  80 cm




                                                                            NOT/ultra-low landscape disturbing !






Clearly,the autonomous private household micro-/smart-grid also possible,


5 KW portable generator size  presented here https://patents.google.com/patent/EP1841544A2




No grid-fees,no CO2 emission costs and < 5 Euro-cent/KWh on-demand electricity costs




Beside wind 5 KW/sqm generator  ,in research : photo-voltaic 5 KW/sqm    Also not landscape disturbing !