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Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum [with free speech]

Started by F6FLT, March 23, 2019, 07:39:29 AM

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SolarLab

Hi Stefan,

Hope all is well and your doing fine.

Please restore the files that got removed during the "transition" of Westey's thread. Many of the 
posts (in particular Solarlab) are referenced in a variety of other places. This has caused problems
when others try and reference them.

There was a great deal of effort and time put into most of these posts. Many of them contain key
information and references leading to the understanding of the underlying technologies and it's use.

An attached .zip file (.rtf - wordpad) contains several examples of the discussions that originally lead
up to the chaos with several snipets of broken thread links. It's clear even from the brief captures 
why and where the root problem stemmed from but that's water under the bridge now.

Anyway, thanks in advance - hate to loose all this hard work and information or spend time sorting through
a "way back" recovery, especially when considering the cause. And re-linking would be a major task.

Regards,

SL


AlienGrey

Quote from: SolarLab on March 24, 2019, 09:18:09 PM
Hi Stefan,

Hope all is well and your doing fine.

Please restore the files that got removed during the "transition" of Westey's thread. Many of the 
posts (in particular Solarlab) are referenced in a variety of other places. This has caused problems
when others try and reference them.

There was a great deal of effort and time put into most of these posts. Many of them contain key
information and references leading to the understanding of the underlying technologies and it's use.

An attached .zip file (.rtf - wordpad) contains several examples of the discussions that originally lead
up to the chaos with several snipets of broken thread links. It's clear even from the brief captures 
why and where the root problem stemmed from but that's water under the bridge now.

Anyway, thanks in advance - hate to loose all this hard work and information or spend time sorting through
a "way back" recovery, especially when considering the cause. And re-linking would be a major task.

Regards,

SL
Wesley, if you go onto Russian speaking sites similar to  overunity.com, they don't put up with this type of 'blackmail' off topic full page 'wast of space manuscripts ' they are either removed or shrunk down and hidden but showing a viewable reference for a minority to view or tolerate. I mean this junk would not be tolerated so why is it here?
If you look back to the start we had none of this mafia imposed personalized of topic demands, so why put up with it now ????

hartiberlin

Quote from: SolarLab on March 24, 2019, 09:18:09 PM
Hi Stefan,

Hope all is well and your doing fine.

Please restore the files that got removed during the "transition" of Westey's thread. Many of the 
posts (in particular Solarlab) are referenced in a variety of other places. This has caused problems
when others try and reference them.

There was a great deal of effort and time put into most of these posts. Many of them contain key
information and references leading to the understanding of the underlying technologies and it's use.

An attached .zip file (.rtf - wordpad) contains several examples of the discussions that originally lead
up to the chaos with several snipets of broken thread links. It's clear even from the brief captures 
why and where the root problem stemmed from but that's water under the bridge now.

Anyway, thanks in advance - hate to loose all this hard work and information or spend time sorting through
a "way back" recovery, especially when considering the cause. And re-linking would be a major task.

Regards,

SL
Where was it removed ?in which thread ?Wesley has only remove rights in his own board, not in other boards...Also restoring is not possible...Then people have to look into your ZIP file.... Or just build your own site and post it there...Please stop hammering Wesley in his own board...
Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

F6FLT

Quote from: hartiberlin on March 24, 2019, 04:30:41 PM
Why do you critisize Wesley so much ?He has his own thread, where he wants to post his theories...

It is not a personal matter, I am not criticizing a person, but what he says and do, for reasons I justify (see for example, above, the question of water as a resonant dielectric). It seems to me that in a discussion forum, it is essential to be able to oppose points of view.

Unlike me who criticizes technical points, we see stivep defaming me, claiming that I am not the real licensed amateur radio operator, accusing me of being in the pay of whoever... (is it in charter of the forum?) and when I answer, he suppresses my posts, and not only mine. I therefore criticize his methods of arbitrary censorship.

From what I see of stivep, there are far more comments (scientifically wacky) about the work of others, with photos and diagrams taken from others, than there are about personal experiments or theoretical development on his part. When I talk about what he says, I also comment on his contributions, as he does about those of others like Kapanadze.

The more you are competent in physics, the faster you see the experimental biases or the conventional explanations that explain perfectly what you observe. What you can show on a forum is therefore very little compared to what you do.
Conversely, the less competent you are, the less aware you are of experimental errors and of conventional explanations, and the more you invent crazy theories about what you see, just to satisfy your ego or impress the audience.

Stivep does a lot of animation here. I understand that this is interesting for a forum like this. But is this compatible with the aim? Quantity is incompatible with quality and the time required for experiments and their analysis. When it comes to experiments done by others, it is even worse because the lack of technical data means that anyone can claim to be an expert in the secrets of the device and say anything in large quantities and of little relevance on most subjects.

If we want a forum where the rule is the complacent spreading of theories based on no facts or on delusional interpretations, simply to please ourselves, then stivep production is not criticizable.
If we want a forum where we seek for real technical results, then we must eliminate the wrong leads, scams, biased interpretations, and keep the real points that seem promising to us. Then to make the selection, the discussion including detailed factual criticism is necessary.
I assumed that we were in the mindset of point two.

F6FLT

Quote from: hartiberlin on March 25, 2019, 04:39:42 AM
Where was it removed ?in which thread ?Wesley has only remove rights in his own board...

I replied to this, and my message was deleted (among dozens of others):
"F6FLT  from this forum is not the same, real licensed F6FLT"

We can see he talk only about me, not about the technical points I mentioned.
Is Stivep allowed to defame, to carry out personal attacks, and then to delete messages where you defend yourself?!