The solution !!!!

[NdaClouDzzz]

"you can't prove anything on internet "

Thank you for the reply.
I believe that what Rick means by that is that PROOF is all in the eye of the beholder. Of course, he also means that you can't prove OU over the internet because of the danger to one self by showing such a device to the world. It's a true conundrum: People want to see proof yet they also recognize that such inventors get killed over such proof.
Edit: Don Smith showed me the PROOF when he pulled 8000 volts worth of electrons from ground using milliamps from a 12 volt battery ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyionE-sCis&feature=youtu.be&t=3205 )  ( See attached jpg for a similar take on Don's demonstration, courtesy of Zed at the Don Smith forum )
Cheers

[NdaClouDzzz]

So the question is....WHAT IS THE PRINCIPLE of energy extraction from the Nature...Vacuum etc
...thank you for your good work and keep it up.

Greetings
Although I'm relatively new at all of this with no electrical or electronics training or practical experience beyond a few Joule thief circuits, my understanding of things is more of an intuitive understanding. With that, it seems to me that there is no "one principle" of energy extraction from nature. We are floating in a sea of energy. We simply need to find ways to tap into and extract that energy and transform it into the power that we use for our electrical devices. For example, we use solar panels to capture and transform some of the Suns energy into usable power. We also do the same with wind turbines, etc.
One of the complications with inventors such as Don Smith is that he wasn't very clear to the average listener when he would describe the different phenomena(?) that he would employ in his various devices. For example, when he would talk about magnetic resonance or the ambient background, etc. So it's up to the listener to dedicate themselves in order to figure things out for themselves. This is also how Rick seems to teach. You have to study to not only understand the particular phenomena being referenced, but which process that particular phenomena is associated with in the different stages of the particular devices. I have come to believe that my lack of formal electrical and electronics training is what allows me to consider and see things that are not considered by those with formal training. By considering something that may ultimately be wrong in the eyes of those with formal training, I venture down a path that may just have something worthwhile to be found. I don't limit myself to any particular teacher or teaching or point of view. IF I should ever become confident enough to build something, I will most definitely acquire the formal training necessary to ensure that I do not harm myself or others. Until then, I continue to build in my unrestrained mind. Those AH HA moments are waiting for us all if we just keep at it.
Cheers

[citfta]

My question for you is this.  How can you possibly know when you have discovered something new if you don't take the time to learn what is already known?  You sound like an explorer that wants to explore new territory but is not willing to learn how to read a map.  And if you don't take the time to learn the basics then you are easy prey for those that wish to deceive.  And there are plenty of them out there.


Respectfully,
Carroll

[NdaClouDzzz]

My question for you is this.  How can you possibly know when you have discovered something new if you don't take the time to learn what is already known?  You sound like an explorer that wants to explore new territory but is not willing to learn how to read a map.  And if you don't take the time to learn the basics then you are easy prey for those that wish to deceive.  And there are plenty of them out there.


Respectfully,
Carroll

Greetings
Perhaps I've oversimplified my explanation. Of course I've acquired some basic electrical and electronics knowledge, just not to the point of being fully indoctrinated into the establishments way of thinking. I've been dabbling in the FE world for a good Three decades now. I'm not saying that the way that I approach things is the correct way, but it is the way that keeps me interested in this FE thing that officially does not exist.
Cheers

[ramset]

NDA
Here is Bruno's channel


https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCkp6KwvUDupNdS8tamQF06w


I believe a few members have interacted
As well as our host Stefan


Look thru a bit


Bruno is good customer of Rick F