The quest for achieving overunity from HHO or structured water gas

[ChileanOne]

I am posting all these videos to try to stablish that water electrolysis, if done properly, is not really creating HHO gas, but something else, that has an increased level of energy. These gasesous water cluster molecules, are heavier than air so they can be stored even in a paper bag if needed, at normal pressure, but can be stored also safely and densely in normal LPG vessels. Ohmasa gas is not claimed to be overunity, but no one has bothered to chek it also, as Dr. Omasa is completely unaware of the relationship of his invention to EVOs and he potential overunity this aspect brings forth.

The thing is, unlike Dr. Tadahiko Mizuno's latest LENR succes (which he is publishing with fully detailed instructions for replication, BTW if you are interested), Electrolysis and vibration technology is something we DYI tikerer's can handle at backyard level, and see for ourselves all the anomalies and even try to determine if OU is possible.

I think the other approach that could be also easy to prove OU and also is not normally used is John Kanzius RF water gas generation approach.

The water gas clusters are beyond a speculation, they have been measured and Omasa is aware that this is the basis of the stability and safety of his gas.(you can see here a 2012 news clip of NHK TV that mentions Omasa and also shows a schematic of the water clusters in the middle of the H and O mixture)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVwmr7WNtNA

[ChileanOne]

Why I think Omasa's process is the one that perhaps is closer to "perfection" on producing clustered water gas, is due to it considering most if not all of the points listed in the 2011 paper of water electrolyzers and the zero point energy:
2.5. Summary
This paper was motivated by the apparent success of the researchers and hobbyists in the "HHO
community." They have been demonstrating unusual energy anomalies and have been trying to explain
them in terms of hydrogen production. Those that are scientifically trained realize that hydrogen cannot
account for what is claimed, and thus the discussion groups on the web are engaged in vituperative
argument. In a sense, both sides are right: hobbyists appear to be demonstrating energetic anomalies and
hydrogen is not the source.
The hypothesis offered is that the single-duct electrolyzers are producing charged water gas clusters,
which is the dominant energetic component instead of hydrogen. The electrolyzers that yield the largest
energy anomalies appear to make more charged water clusters and less hydrogen. From the study of the
disclosures by many inventors, the following characteristics seem to make favorable electrolyzers:
1. Clean, rough electrode surface (I really can't tell from the images, will have to look at Omasa's patents)
2. Small gap between the electrodes (you can see Omasa's electrolyzer has few millimeters between electrolyzer's fins, but also the whole array is almost cubic using a high volume within the reactor)
3. Circulate or vibrate the water (with a few energy input, Omasa's vibrating fins (which create a lot of cavitation), create a very turbulent regime full of vortexes that removes quickly and steadily the gas being formed between the electrolyzer's fins, and the gas remains dissolved in teh water!!!!)
4. Minimum electrolyte (typically potassium hydroxide or sodium hydroxide) (Omasa's process uses different electrolytes and reports elemental transmutation depending of the mixture used, also when using D2O in the mix)
5. Driving electrolyzer with pulsed DC square waves
(don't know in Omasa's case, have to look at the patents)6. High voltage spike on the leading edge of the square wave
(don't know in Omasa's case, have to look at the patents)7. Recycling the exhaust water back to the electrolyzer: (There's no exhaust water, it all takes place in a batch reactor!!!)

Turbulent water flow through narrow inter-electrode gaps appears to augment the energy content of
the emitted gas (Already said that the vibrating fins create a very turbulent regime and plenty of cavitation and vortexes in the fluid subject to electrolysis).

[Sergh]

These 2 patents on the links below are completely similar.    Kapanadze patent does not explicitly indicate the source of vibration. But this is understandable by placing the electrolyzer in the cylinder of a working internal combustion engine:
https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2243390C1/en?oq=RU+2243390+C1

https://overunity.com/16440/hho-generation-using-high-frequency-electromagnetic-waves-on-water/msg533697/#msg533697

[ChileanOne]

Thanks for your answer Sergh, I don't mean that only Omasa has the proper reactor, in fact most HHO systems are capable of creating structured or clustered water in gaseous form, just Omasa creates a big fraction so he is confident to leave the reactor open to air because he knows his gas can't scape because it's heavier than air. He also stores it for long periods in normal LPG vessels without any inconvenience. He also can liquify it at normal atmospheric pressure.


But beyond what Omasa does, for me the important part is that it allows to see that what most people thinks that is HHO with all its unusual properties, is not HHO but clustered water gas, which is a radical new thing and allows overunity and nuclear transmutation, which in turn is what we all here are seeking, I say that understanding that this is not Hydrogen and Oxygen but water in a higher state of energy is completely mind boggling and the key to achieve overunity and open a big hole in all what is known and accepted in physics and nuclear science.

[oz93666]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAlhKaWWzLM

Hi ... Have just watched that short video ... nothing seems to have moved on since I saw the first Ohmasa video , many years ago ... it seems the laboratory is in mothballs and he just took the dust sheets off for the camera crew and visitor .... Ohmasa seems senile , unable to open the detergent bottle ...  where are the engines??? What has Ohmasa been doing all these years??? If a new gas has been isolated why has this not been analysed by professional chemists ... Rather strange this new gas has a very low liquefying temp , when we think it must be a large molecule , the two do not go together.

In the second video with the torch  @10 mins we burn through the tungsten ... the camera only registers 400C  ..... when the torch is taken off the tungsten , (presumably the plasmatic effect has ceased ) but the metal is still glowing orange .... this metal must be 1000C

It was mentioned that iron melted and sagged under water at 80C !!! if this was the case it would make everyone a believer ... Do we have a video of this???