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CO2 capture and reuse technology

Started by lancaIV, July 15, 2019, 07:30:45 AM

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lancaIV

Quote from: lancaIV on September 13, 2019, 12:13:21 PM
https://www.engineering.com/DesignerEdge/DesignerEdgeArticles/ArticleID/18218/Carbon-Capture-Cost-Savings-on-the-Horizon.aspx

USD 50/ton carbon-dioxid capture cost is nice. !
Old calculation base

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New global reengineering price level :

https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/132407.html
CO2 cycled chemical capture : from natural atmosphere USD 5,3/ton  is nicer. !
With capture price decrease " killing this speculative problem" !
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International Fixprice :
CO2-certification maximal taxation : USD 5,3/ ton ~ < 5 Euros/ton  !
With 100% CO2-capture reinvestment. !
https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Wir-brauchen-jetzt-Alle-for-Future-article21288011.html
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fpolitik%2FWir-brauchen-jetzt-Alle-for-Future-article21288011.html
Shall the international kids  begin to observe what and how " the experts" define economical values. ?
Are their salaries to high. ?

Why shall 10 Euros/ ton CO2 tax/ certification not be enough. ?
"ridicoulos low " : yes, such ridicoulos low that it is wondering that now one makes the economical calculation how cheap CO2 capture and temporal or permanent storage can be. !
Seconds Methane capture and permanent or temporal storage. !

If I would be stupid and not sceptical I would think and recommend :
CO2 air capture

But when we think about CO2 there are a. natural sources( earth,plants,vulcanoes,....)  and b. anthropogen= by human work CO2 generation and emission  !
One of the greatest sources of temporal CO2 storage : the world oceans. !
Per liter volume several times higher CO2 content than in air  !

This means for a long time CO2 source for synfuel production  = sea fuel
and by oxylisis : solid Carbon source ( Graphit,Graphene)
If synfuels have less 50-80% CO2 emission in relation to crude oil the use of synfuels means : less new CO2 emission

At the beginning I would recommend low cost car exhaust emission filter.
Later option : for city drive an hybrid kit ( zero city emission) or 100% electric car conversion

The car making industry unisono with the parliaments abused in the last 2 decades their citizens:it is now their active part for reparation or extinction

And national workplace politics shall not anymore be "political priority", the best economical solution mandates the decision by worldwide comparison. !
We know that internal combustion engines are bad energy converter, from theoretical maximal 35/40% conventional gasoline/gasoil engines performance the real average power-to-wheel result : 8-15% efficiency. !
1978 solution and work  before/after explanation :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19820309&CC=US&NR=4318449A&KC=A#

https://peswiki.com/directory:gun-engine.   Up to 90% for synfuel or hydrogen as fuel
https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=10760 up to 90% efficiency
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_disk_engine up to 60% efficiency

https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=13001 15% x 6 times improvement  ? No miracle but perfection
http://www.proepowersystems.com/PROEHOME.HTM
Permanent 50% average conversion efficiency ( evtl.  with waste heat recuperator) has to be commercial minimum  !
For 10000 ( ten thousand)  Euros and more new cars  !

lancaIV

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fm.spiegel.de%2Fwissenschaft%2Fnatur%2Flandwirtschaft-deutschlands-weizen-wurde-besonders-stark-getroffen-a-1286622.html
" Only a national problem  !"  ?
German/European/Global Agriculture Desertec solution :

http://www.canlaser.com/en/Deserts.html

Agriculture/Greenhouse Bio-Chemistry :
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fm.spiegel.de%2Fspiegel%2Fprint%2Fd-13508487.html

Publicated by Alexander Kueckens  invented solutions :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Alexander+kueckens&CPC=&IC=

+      ?        too less /too much effect/result :learning by doing

How many biochemical/biogenic different cycles lives a plant?

Beside the daily/nightly Oxygen/Carbondioxid process interchange ?
https://www.google.com/search?q=magnetizer+plant+growth&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

https://www.google.com/search?q=plant+growth+booster&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

"appropriate dose/dosis science"
for "appropriate world gardening":

for many plants important : peak versus average night temperature/ humidity
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FJustus_von_Liebig

Biosoil treatment :
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=biosoilbooster&oq=biosoilbooster&aqs=heirloom-srp..

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bioaktuell.ch%2Fpflanzenbau%2Fboden%2Fregenwurm.html

Between 1983 and 2007 : some ecology related award winning solutions. ?
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPhilip_Morris_Forschungspreis

Did the award winner optimized their award object  ? How do their "patented object claims" become treated by Universities, estatal institutions and private companies - - reusing this knowledge  ?
Filling the "winner name" in, finding the right "patent"=100% identity, read and later to " citing documents". !https://worldwide.espacenet.com/help?locale=en_EP&method=handleSearch&helpSearchQuery=advanced+search&Submit=Search

https://www.google.com/search?q=fao+agriculture+co2&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSION FOR AGRICULTURE, FORESTRY AND OTHER LAND USE
"from" to " for" : global GHG re-cycling : especially GHG to GREENHOUSECARBON/GREENHOUSEOXYGEN

https://www.google.com/search?q=aussterben+der+palmen&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
Palmen,Olivenbaeume, Bananenstauden,........

https://www.welt.de/wissenschaft/article108981849/Aussterben-der-Bienen-waere-fatal-fuer-die-Menschheit.html 

Insects
https://m.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/tiere/vogelsterben-in-nordamerika-fast-drei-milliarden-voegel-weniger-16394962.html 

Birds

Artensterben weltweit, auch von Beruf( ung) sarten : der Letzte seiner Zunft/Gilde schliesse die Tuere zu

p.s. : probably also other "non ecology related" PM award winner their oeuvre could be interestant for R&D and for personal science   "status quo" -upgrade

PM award prize / AN  award.prize ? In money equal  value !
1990 Klaus von Klitzing PM award  money prize background : cigarettes/ tobacco
1985 Klaus von Klitzing AN award  money prize background :  Nobel Dynamite

lancaIV

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww1.wdr.de%2Fwissen%2Ftechnik%2Fkohlenstoffdioxid-sprit-100.html
rule of thumb ( pi mal Daumen: Verhaeltniskunde/ Groessen-/Entfernungs-Massstab) = FAUSTFORMEL
We read the above informative article :
Question  : how many liter ambiental oxygen from air ( Nitrogen,.....) consumes a car during 100 Km drive  ?
A. Gasoline/gasoil liquid to gas in liter + ? liter ambiental air as gas intake. ?
How efficient in energy conversion is a combustion engine by total( transported - in liquid kind - to gas- and by air gas extracting?) gas energy content/drive  ratio. ?
CO2 and  consume calculation with/-out FAUSTFORMEL/RULE OF THUMB CAUSE THE IMMENSE SPREAD

1 HYDRO-CARBON MOLECULE : 
FOUR TO ELEVEN CARBON ATOMS WITH EACH 2 OR 3 HYDROGEN ATOMS BONDED
SPECIFIC MOLECULAR MASS WEIGHT BY CALCULATING SPECIFIC ATOMAR MASS WEIGHT SPREAD  ?
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sunearthtools.com%2Fde%2Ftools%2FCO2-emissions-calculator.php
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=+O2+g%2Fmol&oq=+O2+g%2Fmol&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l5
How many molecules water are bonded during combustion a.  in number b. in molecular mass weight


      CITIES AS "HOT CAR TEMPERATURE ISLANDS" ( CITIES AS HOT BUILDINGS TEMPERATURE ISLANDS)

How hot is this exhausted water/ H20 :  PARIS climate conference 1,5° Celsius temperature increase limitation.

How hot are the exhaust greenhouse gases  ?
How hot is the  car in summer, the car body metall like a solarcollector, the wheels as hot runner : friction. ?


And GHG ( CO2,Methan/Ethan/Water vapor/...)emission  reduction will not have a greet temperature impact effect  !

Belfior

Why do we need to reuse CO2 in any other way than with plants?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEWoPzaDmOA

there is zero chance of stopping climate change, that has happened for 4,5 billion years.

The whole CO2 hysteria is just another scam to limit energy usage of certain countries, so US would stay on top. CO2 cannot be the force driving the temperature, because that is what the ice core drilling data shows. Temperature rises first and 800-1400 years after the CO2.

We need to stop pollution and raping this planet for resources. Those are going to be needed, when the next ice age hits us. UK is now chopping down the amazon rain forest, because UK changed its biggest coal energy plants to "biomass" and "carbon neutral" fuels. That means firewood. Well that is not coming from the UK I can tell you. So this whole CO2 hysteria has gone so far, that we are chopping down the stuff that eats CO2, so we would not create CO2, but by burning the wood we are.