A-King 21 - build discussion /investigation

[TinselKoala]

Oh, I think I get it now. The system takes one Joule to run but produces 2 Joules. Therefore overunity. But you need to feed one of those back from the output to make the OU and only actually _use_ the leftover one Joule of free energy.   











You still have to supply the input, though, from somewhere else.    Otherwise you violate the First Law of Overunity, which says that no OU device can be made to run solely on its own output, or the MiBs will come and get you. 

[partzman]

You don't use the output.  You feed it back into the input. Feeding back loses the 0.05%  You are assuming that the output is used. It is not.  Benitez explains it better than me. In fact why don't you read Benitez. You only use the output when you are happy with the gain in the circuit.   
Then there is a specific way to use the output.  Rick outed the process in his video when discharging one capacitor into another. So I  thought "Ah well, Rick's  let the cat out of the bag,  may as well join the party".
But this stuff is only 100 years old guys.

That is what I did in my original example.  I took the output and added it back to the input.  I then took that sum and created a new output, etc.  Due to losses it all comes up short of COP>1.

But let's say I do as you say and accumulate the output in some storage device like a capacitor.  After x number of cycles, we will still be less than the input expended due to losses.  So, where is the gain mechanism?

BTW, I've read the Benitez patents.

Regards,
Pm

[a.king21]

Oh, I think I get it now. The system takes one Joule to run but produces 2 Joules. Therefore overunity. But you need to feed one of those back from the output to make the OU and only actually _use_ the leftover one Joule of free energy.   











You still have to supply the input, though, from somewhere else.    Otherwise you violate the First Law of Overunity, which says that no OU device can be made to run solely on its own output, or the MiBs will come and get you.

It's not running on it's own output anymore than a solar panel is ou.  In the case of a solar panel, the input is from the sun directly.  In the case of te DSE the input is from the electrons in the ambient background which are energised by solar and cosmic action.  The DSE works better during the day than at night and better on high ground than low ground.  This is due to the electrical activity at these times and altitudes. Additionally if you look at electrostatic induction once you potentialize the inside of the capacitor  it can be used to potentialize many cycles of the outside plate of the cap. Hope that makes it clearer.

[a.king21]

Partzman: Then I take it you disagree with Benitez. Especially his first patent.  May I ask where you see the flaw in his reasoning?
My one concern with Benitez is that in the loop back trafo that it is actually an induction coil  and not a trafo which would have an additional gain input into the system.

[Void]

It's not running on it's own output anymore than a solar panel is ou.  In the case of a solar panel, the input is from the sun directly.  In the case of te DSE the input is from the electrons in the ambient background which are energised by solar and cosmic action.  The DSE works better during the day than at night and better on high ground than low ground.  This is due to the electrical activity at these times and altitudes.

Hi a.king21. Unfortunately it's all just words unless someone can actually demonstrate it
in a reasonable way. At any rate what you said there is not what Don Smith talked about
that I have seen. From what I recall, Don Smith talked about 'disturbing the ambient' which supposedly causes
'separation of electron pairs' or something along that line which 'releases energy' and this energy is
somehow collected by the circuitry. I have already pointed out in the other thread that
Don Smith apparently did not create that 'Don Smith Effect' document, again from what I recall, so
there is no guarantee that DSE stuff really has anything much to do with things Don Smith actually said.