Power from repelling magnets

[ayeaye]

I doubt that your design amplifies power. Why, because after it turns 180 degrees, the attraction force stops it, so also the force to start the motion seems to be quite great.

Saying that, i think it's true that any asymmetric field can do continuous work, and magnetic field is an asymmetric field because it has two poles. This means that there should be a trajectory how one magnet goes through the magnetic field of another magnet, and gets propulsion. This drawing shows such trajectory in a straight line  https://ia800903.us.archive.org/22/items/Flcm4/pmmbp12.jpg  but there are other possible trajectories, maybe 3D, that may be more efficient, that depends on the shape of the magnetic fields. The other question is how to make a magnet to move exactly on such trajectory.

My this experiment seems to show overunity  https://archive.org/details/Flcm3  that though doesn't exceed the friction. But the problem is that it was done by hand, which of course anyone can repeat, but it is not really measuring it. This experiment thus should be replicated using pressure sensitive resistors or such, to measure forces, and a trigger, like a vertical stopper that doesn't depend on the hand motion horizontally. The importance is though that it seems to show overunity, and there is also a theoretical reason why there should be overunity in such design, so this is a reasonable subject for research.

Thank you for your attention, if it was anyhow useful for anybody.

[norman6538]

ayeaye thanks for your reply. I'll be  brief because I have recovered enough to work a little and my parts have arrived to complete my machine. I have said for a long time that if a small force can release a larger force then we will have OU. This machine is my 3rd example of OU. It is based on using 2 Lafonte machines to turn off and on the permanent magnetic forces. Most people don't believe this is even possible but it works.
My first measurement gave 1 unit of work in and 4 units out. I should have this measured by Wed.
I am very weak and can do very little at a time.
I was careful to give the details to my children in case anything happens to me so barring
the men in b???k you will soon know how to do it.

Norman

[ayeaye]

I have said for a long time that if a small force can release a larger force then we will have OU.

Right but, i think one should first theoretically show that in some design a small force really releases a larger force, and not just another force. I proposed a theoretical foundation for that and it did stand all criticism for 6 years, so why not think your design theoretically through based on that? As i see, there is only one theoretical reason that can cause overunity in permanent magnets, and maybe not only in permanent magnets, so by that all overunity in permanent magnets should be explained by this.

Many thanks for all your efforts at that, i just want that your efforts will have a result significant for research. Even if you first fail to get overunity the way you think.

[norman6538]

I'm enjoying the dialogue. My 2nd OU device was the Lafonte slider and here is what you saw.
1. weight dropped x distance.
2. 2 weights were lifted that same x distance. Very very clear.

That is the way I measure things. Only the brain dead could not see the obvious. An I will
do it the same way this time.

Here is the principle that is alway in play.
1. set it up - the appratus must be moved/cocked/set to make power.
2. power is made/used/ or stored.
3. reset for repeat by moving something back into position of step 1.

So step 1 is a small force, step 2 is a larger force, and step 3 is a small force.

Norman

Norman

[ayeaye]

I looked at the lafonte things, didn't convince me though anyhow. One device that was shown, yes sure the force to separate two magnets may well be 5 times less than the force with which they attract. When to move two much bigger repulsing magnets against each other, and steel bars towards the magnets, which also need an additional force to later separate them from the magnets. So not 5 times less force at all, if not greater force. All in all it looked to me as a bad idea. No theoretical reason given why this thing as a whole should provide overunity, no calculations or anything that the total energy to separate will be less than the energy gained when attracting. Making it even less convincing.