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Power from repelling magnets

Started by norman6538, July 20, 2019, 05:01:53 PM

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norman6538

That Naudin work goes way back to '98 and he is impeccable. But when nothing more after years then I have to ask why and this is what I think. Force is not work. It has a distance component and that is probably what is missing to make it look usable.  That is exactly where I am stuck.
I am working on a metal window that opens and closes to turn on and off a magnetic force and I was trying to balance that like Lafonte's scissors and like 2 weights on a rope and pulley that will stay anywhere you put them just like the Lafonte linear device I posted a picture of. The balancing has failed so I'll just  work with 1 window and maybe an attraction force compensator. The problem I have is  the non linear force as the metal is  attracted  to the magnets.

I am still dizzy when I turn around but heart wise I'm OK. BUT my wife has cancer and needs surgery to remove the mass and then whatever is required. We are hopeful that it will be OK because the surgeon has done over 700 of these surgeries. If you can pray for Marian's healing and no infection after the surgery on the 30th and 31st We would appreciate it.

So I will be "magnetically weak" for a few weeks if things go well.

Norman

ayeaye

K, i wish your things go well.

Why, i think because the things are not understood. That it is about asymmetry of the field, and this asymmetry must be increased, to have better results.

The other thing is friction, there may be overunity, and experiments and even simulations show that, but it cannot overcome friction. Properly friction has to be measured, and the energy of friction subtracted from the energies. Then it may show overunity. That the energy goes to friction doesn't mean no overunity, though no use of it.

There may be asymmetry in the field, but normally it's likely not great, only a slight asymmetry, providing only a very small overunity. But there being any at all, has a tremendous importance theoretically.

We should understand what we deal with, this is the only way to find solutions to go further. The experiments now are to get that understanding.

I think that some researchers do really good work. Like Lafonte saying that there is 6 times overunity. He may be right, in some case there really may be, though in most cases maybe not. What he omits saying though, is that he likely always disregards friction.


ayeaye

We can actually see that asymmetry, we can see that there are slightly less field lines coming out of a pole in the direction from S pole to N pole, than in the other directions. I cannot attach a picture here, because all these pictures are by who knows whom copyrighted, but see like this video  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy6H0mr3KXw . There we see the asymmetry we deal with, it is quite slight, yet clearly visible. Iron filings are small pieces of iron extracted, when a piece of iron such as a nail, is filed. It is rather delicate to use them so that they show the magnetic field well enough, showing the difference of field density, is likely especially difficult.

Now some suggest that this asymmetry can be increased, by adding shielding on the poles or such, i have not tried that and never thoroughly thought whether it really increases asymmetry.

Ok, i got one image from Wikimedia Commons  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Magnet0873.png , so i can attach a part of it here. I don't know how well the asymmetry is seen from there, some other images show it better.


ayeaye

I think that i now understand how my this experiment  https://archive.org/details/Flcm3  really worked. I remember that i had to tilt the magnets. As you can see on the drawing below, there can be possible a straight line by which a north pole of another magnet can go through the field, getting propulsion. Because the positive attraction there is greater than the negative attraction, due to the asymmetry of the magnetic field mentioned before.

This drawing doesn't show an actual magnetic field, it was drawn just to give an idea. The correct angle, etc, depends on the actual shape of the field.

Properly, this thread should be called power from attracting magnets, as the experiments here only use attraction, but when using repulsion it should be the same, only opposite.

This also seems to work based on the same asymmetry. As we see, when we know what it is about, then we see that different experiments really show the same effect.


ayeaye

Ok, some are still not able to see, so below i drew a red box around the area where are less field lines.