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Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board

Started by ramset, September 18, 2019, 09:15:01 AM

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stivep


Some of material will sound weird or  very  weird" to the scientists.
before you  judge me please  read  Reasoning in  post : part#1
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg557079/#msg557079
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Part #4a non Hertzian Wave
this  is an addition to the most important  to us part #4

as a third  link here  I'm posting:
original link to    Toby Grotz article
http://swissenschaft.ch/tesla/content/T_Library/L_Theory/AboutTesla/WIRELESS%20TRANSMISSION%20OF%20POWER.pdf


Note: This paper explains  what phrase non-Hertzian waves  come from and why we can use it.


Quotephrase "used" by .  Nikola Tesla
Many researchers have speculated on the meaning of the phrase "non-Hertzian waves" as used by Dr. Nikola Tesla. 
[Actually, Tesla did not use this term. ed.]
Dr. Tesla first began to use this term in the mid 1890's in order to explain his proposed system
for the wireless transmission of electrical power. 
In fact, it was not until the distinction between the method that Heinrich Hertz
was using and the system Dr. Tesla had designed, that
Dr. Tesla was able to receive the endorsement of the renowned physicist, Lord Kelvin.1
and here is link to  more modern  version of the article  with minor changes to the original but with a lot of   addition.
http://www.teslaradio.com/pages/resonating.htm#:~:text=Wireless%20Transmission%20of%20Power%20Resonating%20Planet%20Earth%20Tesla%27s,the%20first%20cyclotron%20%281931%29.%20WIRELESS%20TRANSMISSION%20OF%20POWER



Wesley

AreYouSure?

Wesley,

I been reading your posts for some time and is obvious that you know the principle of FE device.
It is mystery why you keep holding it after all this time,.

You been there and saw Kapanadze simple yet effective device,
and still you choose to follow devices like Zenneck,
which are not even similar to Kapanadze simple and small electronics,

You rather choose Zeneck towers and huge installations,
after you saw small kilowatt Kapandaze monster.

I Just wonder why that is?

The time is passing like sand slipping through our fingers and can not be reversed.
Is it worth?

Kapanadze died, and no one will remember him in few years.
He could change the world, but he choose not to!
And because of that he is nobody, only few of us will remember him.
Nobody! Null.

Maybe you right, Lets build huge Zenneck towers after we saw shoe box Kapanadze kilowatt device.
But you time is passing just like mine and others.

How young are you, or old?

I am not in FE as much as in genetics.
FE is interesting.

Enjoy your time and best luck.
I still have plenty of time, while you don't.

So, the time must be precious to you.
Or it will be soon.


stivep

Part 1:  answers to the questions:
in chronological order where  goal is to  fallow the logical path
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I will address your questions  but  let me go  wider than that
as first there is a need to understand it so we can talk  at  some common  level ..
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Device of Tariel Kapanadze   is in its concept  the Dr Corum device  or Energy extraction device of mine.
but  Device of Tariel Kapanadze  is  in more sophisticated  and advanced  form, and it acts  only  as a  receiver  of  the energy.
I'm not yet at this level of miniaturization yet But it is fairly small.
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Some answers to the questions:

What is energy?

Answer: Energy, in physics, the capacity for doing work. It may exist in potential, kinetic, thermal, electrical, chemical, nuclear, or various other forms.
https://www.britannica.com/science/energy

What energy comes from?
Answer: in  our case : The energy comes from Schumann waveguide in form of  Zenneck Wave at  Brewster  angle .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances


What  is Schumann Waveguide ?
Answer:
QuoteEarth and the conductive ionosphere acts as a closed waveguide. The limited dimensions of the Earth cause this waveguide to act as a resonant cavity for electromagnetic waves in the ELF band. The cavity is naturally excited by electric currents in lightning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances



What  form energy in Schumann  waveguide comes from into  interface.?
Answer:
QuoteThe cavity is naturally excited by electric currents in lightning
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances
Probability  of lightning energy in form of  EM wave  to  hit at  Brewster angle  is directly related  to level of  measured energy of Zenneck Wave in the interface.

What is probability?
Answer:
Quotethe extent to which something is probable; the likelihood of something happening or being the case.
and in our case  the probability of  energy of lightning  in form of  EM wave
entering the interface  at Brewster  Angle .
example: just Canada by itself  averages over 2 million lightning strikes are each year.


What is the interface ?
Answer: 
in simple language :           
the interface  is the space between two different  materials having different dielectric constant.
more complicated  answer:
electromagnetic wave in transverse magnetic mode  and  graded interface  is using exponential permeability and permittivity profile for high frequency RF.

Examples of the interface :
1.  2D  space  between Air as dielectric and Earth ans  lossy conducting medium
2.  2D  space  between two  dielectrics  having  different   dielectric   properties.
3.  2D  space  between  dielectric and conducting medium such  copper ,  aluminum   etc.
more is here :
https://courses.cit.cornell.edu/ece303/Lectures/lecture19.pdf
but physics of it applies to any  and every frequency  with some  changes due to property of wave  at given  frequency

4. What is Brewster Angle  and why we talking about it?
Answer:

QuoteBrewster's angle (also known as the polarization angle) is an angle of incidence at which light with a particular
polarization is perfectly transmitted through a transparent dielectric surface, with no reflection.
/quote]But we are looking at  situation where there is no reflection and no refraction and  EM wave is in TM mode.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster%27s_angle

What is TM mode?
Answer:

QuoteEnergy can propagate through a medium or through what is currently believed to be a vacuum.
Propagation modes vary depending upon the type of energy and the nature of the medium.
TM mode and other modes:
https://www.testandmeasurementtips.com/basics-of-tem-te-and-tm-propagation/
EM energy can  become self-polarized   because it  hots interface at Brewster Angle  and  propagation  in the interface is possible
in form of Zenneck wave for Low Frequencies or ( we use  different name for the same  phenomena   where we use  phrase: Polariton )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polariton
or surface plasmon polariton:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIABIU3tRw&t=1336s

What is Zenneck Wave :
QuoteThe Zenneck wave, Zenneck surface wave or Sommerfeld-Zenneck surface wave is a longitudinal, inhomogeneous or non-uniform electromagnetic plane wave incident at the complex Brewster's angle onto a planar or spherical boundary interface between two homogeneous media having different dielectric constants.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenneck_wave
Well I have some problems with that  explanation  or to say... more than some ....


Will Inverse-square law apply?
Answer:
The answer is Yes but  it works different in  the interface  (2D space)
And  distance to energy deposited in the interface  is also  in probability equation  as that energy may be deposited  few yards from your
house too due to lightning activity in your area. also  at  higher harmonics of Schumann Resonance it  works  much  different than  some of us may think.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law



Wesley

stivep

the full text of  question of AreYouSure? is in his post. 
Here  you see short  form of it.

Quote from: AreYouSure? on April 24, 2021, 07:15:06 PM
Wesley,
I been reading your posts for some time and is obvious that you know the principle of FE device.
It is mystery why you keep holding it after all this time,.
You rather choose Zenneck towers and huge installations,
after you saw small kilowatt Kapandaze monster.
1. Dr Corum tower is big because the goal is to get more power out  for Tx and Power in for Rx.
   Tariel Kapanadze device is Rx( Receiver )only
   The device for 6kW/h knowing that you in average need  only 6kw/day can be as small as  your stationary computer .
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2. I made device that didn't work in my place,  but I had big critics  of mine Dr Hans , Dr Roy   complaining about me going in wrong direction.
    But  "wrong direction" is  very delicate way to describe  their opinion.
    Dr Roy is still opposing and I love it.. He keeps my sanity in right level  :) hee.
    Dr Hans  decided to prove to me that  I'm totally  wrong and he made it work ...
    So I'm only the builder of the device to be honest.
    I was not smart enough to  see what I did wrong.
    So now all credits don't belong to me and device is performing as  expected.
3.  I'm not fan of  overpopulation that was  calculated  by few mathematicians from local University
    to  start  already  18 years  from now if FE is  delivered  to masses.
     But my friend  he can come out with it at any time.
4.  I'm not the smartest  person  on the earth  and  there are plenty of  people  around who not give a damn about future of
     humanity.  this is not  something that is difficult or complicated  if Tariel Kapanadze was able to do it.
5.  I'm life minimalist  who likes science  and physics  and people don't learn if they don't have need/ are not pushed /required -  to know.
     I don't see benefit  - when  some people rather  prefer  dancing lambada while eating burrito  - and  they know how to read at some level
     as more than that is not required to have  nice live  at satisfying them  level.
     Slogan "I don't give a damn" about  education , supporting  family and making money as  life is easy now and energy is for free should not
     dominate ... The  shortage of food for entire  overpopulation  and trashing  our resurses is really not what  I  want to see.
     Chinese are allowed to have second and third  child now  and your newborn  will  be  only 18 if  calculation is correct.
6.  Will I ever go  out with it...
     The answer is yes.... I'm emotional creature  who may just one day say "enough is enough"
      But I prefer if it was not me.. anyone can do it...


Wesley

PS: last picture shows  phasing  coils corresponding with pictures  from right  above it.
https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ
The wiring in the  device was  modified many times.
The actual wiring  inside , in final version  - ( picture  of the  closed box)  is not  published.
But this is already a lot ..of that  what  experimenter need.
Transmitter can  serve as a receiver and reverse.
Both of the structures look similar
So Receiver  is no exemption here.
In version Kapanadze  you don't need any transmitter .
As you see there is nothing  in the device... and that is why  Tariel  was hiding it.
However his device  is much more advanced than mine.

NdaClouDzzz

stivep
Quote3.  I'm not fan of  overpopulation that was  calculated  by few mathematicians from local University
    to  start  already  18 years  from now if FE is  delivered  to masses.

Yes, most people can't see that a happy mankind makes a populous mankind! FE will make it a populous mankind. It's a true conundrum! Free, clean energy sounds great on the surface, but those of us that can see, know that it is not. But nothing is stopping anyone with an interest in FE from building it themselves. ALL of the info one needs is already online.
👍👍👍👍👍