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Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board

Started by ramset, September 18, 2019, 09:15:01 AM

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stivep

the some of examples of impedance matching related  to post above:
1. https://www.hobbyradio.se/en/eh/ehbenchtest_en.html  ( not so much important)
2.traditional  impedance matching with three components :
-  Tx  ( RF amplifier)
-  Transmission  line
-  antenna ( or resistive load/ dummy load)

Wesley

gotoluc

Quote from: poynt99 on October 04, 2019, 07:54:53 PM
Not actually. What I proposed is that the circuit is formed by the connecting wire, and the air capacitor, which itself is formed between the two top-load plates and the air. Ground is not necessarily in play here.

Actually, exactly as I wrote and you originally proposed. You're just changing your mind from what you originally wrote and dropping the ground path idea.
Here's what you originally wrote.
Quote from: poynt99 on September 20, 2019, 07:37:49 PM
circuit is completed via the path from the top capacitance of the TC's to earth ground.
A Faraday shield around the RX coil won't shield the effect because essentially the earth is being used as the return conductor.
The shield may even improve the effect as it could increase the conductivity from the RX top capacitor to earth ground.
Sounds to me like you were saying earth ground was the return conductor?
So what about the Faraday cage now that you changed your mind about the ground being used as the return conductor. Would your new theory of air capacitive coupling still work through a Faraday cage?

Quote from: poynt99 on October 04, 2019, 07:54:53 PM
What leads you to the conclusion that they are not linked?

The fact that an air capacitor looses most of it's capacitance value with increased distance between plates. Just a change of plate distance from 1/32nd of an inch to 1/2 an inch is a huge drop in capacitance, let alone a distance of 50 feet!

Quote from: poynt99 on October 04, 2019, 07:54:53 PM
I was hoping I wouldn't need to make an electrical equivalent drawing, but here it is.

Thanks for the drawing. I took the liberty to make correction to truly reflect the reality of my device under test so everyone understands what you are now proposing.
I must admit I'm having as much difficulty accepting your newer 50 feet air capacitor distance between TC top cap plates proposal then your previous TC top cap down through earth ground return path.
At least you're out of the ground now and closer to what the Physicist has been entertaining.

BTW, if you or anyone else can think of a test I can do to prove or disprove a 50 feet distance between plates air capacitor is capable of completing a current path (15 watts transfer) between Tx and Rx I'm all ears and ready to learn something I think is not possible.

Kind regards
Luc

r2fpl

That's how energy is transferred through one wire.

stivep


stivep

the same but  using foil instead  of wire
And now we dealing with one  of forms of interface
made from;
-  foil ( copper or aluminum)  the  conductive medium and 
-  air  the dielectric medium
in  picture  where  it says connecting wire there is  no connecting wire  and instead there is  foil
black arrows are indicating that you can tune the device by lifting up and down  TC ( Top Capacitor)

Wesley