Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board

[Jimboot]

Yes Jimboot, we are well aware of them. However, fact is still 99% of the electrical engineering establishment do not believe what they claim is possible.
It will remain a pipe dream until the day they publicly provide the service they claim.
Even then they'll have to deal with maybe years of 3rd party verification's before "The Establishment" is ready to rewrite the possibility of efficient high power wireless transmission.


Understand that even one wire power transmission is not possible according to "The Establishment"
Any educated engineer will tell you current must have a return path.
So just proving efficient one wire power transmission alone will be quite a feat!!!

Regards
Luc

Got it.
Ressurecting some coils. Great setup as usual luc. Thanks Wesley for the cheat sheet.

[gotoluc]

Thank you Wesley for your posts and details.

Please don't think we are not reading your posts or following your instruction, we are reading but taking very small steps at a time.
We have a retired Lockheed Martin EE and Physicist who comes for coffee every morning and looks at my experiments.
As far as he is concerned , one wire power transmission is not possible let alone long distance efficient wireless power transmission.
We also have EE poynt99 (member here) who also believes one wire power transmission is not possible. So, we are taking our time by doing extra tests trying to satisfy all the possibilities of current return paths.
At this point our Lockheed Martin EE, Physicist  is in a confused state as he can no longer explain how the circuit works since we have eliminated most of all possible current return paths.
I'm sharing some of my tests here to help (or maybe confuse) other EE

Hopefully soon we will be moving forward to wireless power transmission by applying what you have been sharing.

Kind regards
Luc

[stivep]

I got few minutes  to  respond
Fallowing comment is  related  to  one wire transmission of energy known also as Goubau line
Fallowing comment  must be  read  in association with  comment indicated  by   link right  below.

in regards to very  condensed:
- list of steps to succeed
- list  of possible errors
- terms and phenomena needed to be learned and understood
-and very condensed  explanation  of  how to transfer energy from point A  to B using different  forms of interface
that  was explained  here:
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg539357/#msg539357

There is   a  misunderstanding of some of you  standing that

that electrical  loop  must  be closed for the current to flow.

simple answer:
EM (_{Electro-Magnetic)} Electromagnetic wave  doesn't need closed loop  nor cares about it. 
This type  of phenomena is related to EM  and NOT  to   electrical circuit  and its laws. 

here is explanation:

EM wave known also as TEM in TM Mode is a must to have  to transfer  Energy from  point A to  B  on the Earth/air interface
or any other type of interface listed in  link from above
1.-TEM is Transverse Electromagnetic Wave
is a mode of propagation where the electric and magnetic field lines are all restricted to directions normal (transverse)
to the direction of propagation. Plane waves are TEM, however, we are more interested in what types of transmission lines can support TEM.
- TEM mode is the preferred mode in coax. Under proper conditions, all E-field lines run radially, while magnetic field lines run in circles around the center conductor.

1a.- Criteria for TEM propagation in transmission lines Five conditions for TEM propagation in a transmission line are below. Most textbooks get the top four correct but fail to mention (5)...
1. Fields are contained in uniform, isotropic dielectric material (excludes microstrip). For TEM, there is never a calculation of Keffective needed!
2. Two or more conductors are required (excludes rectangular waveguide, but includes parallel-plate waveguide)
3. The conductors must have infinite conductivity. The IR drop across the conductor bends the E-field ever so slightly going forward.
4. The dielectric must be lossless.
5. The cross-section of the transmission line must remain constant (excludes certain types of slow-wave structures)
Conditions (3) and (4) make it impossible to create pure TEM unless you have access to superconductors and a zero-gravity lab so you don't have to support the conductors. But these rules are splitting hairs and can usually be ignored in real life.
here  is the link: https://www.microwaves101.com/encyclopedias/transverse-electro-magnetic
==============================================================
After you  read it   you  may partially forget it  as this is not the most important  for you to know.
==============================================================
And now  you are ready to go  to that  what is important to understand:
1. Basics of TEM, TE, and TM propagation
2. Easy Explanation of TE and TM modes for Waveguides | Electromagnetic Field Theory Tutorials
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XHZB7iDi1w

Note: interface  is a form of waveguide as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIABIU3tRw&t=5s


Wesley

[r2fpl]

Thank you Wesley for your posts and details.

Please don't think we are not reading your posts or following your instruction, we are reading but taking very small steps at a time.
We have a retired Lockheed Martin EE and Physicist who comes for coffee every morning and looks at my experiments.
As far as he is concerned , one wire power transmission is not possible let alone long distance efficient wireless power transmission.
We also have EE poynt99 (member here) who also believes one wire power transmission is not possible. So, we are taking our time by doing extra tests trying to satisfy all the possibilities of current return paths.
At this point our Lockheed Martin EE, Physicist  is in a confused state as he can no longer explain how the circuit works since we have eliminated most of all possible current return paths.
I'm sharing some of my tests here to help (or maybe confuse) other EE

Hopefully soon we will be moving forward to wireless power transmission by applying what you have been sharing.

Kind regards
Luc

Luc,

Why do you say that you can't send energy to a light bulb with one wire? I've done it a long time ago. It is very easy.
All we need is TT + kacher + wire + bulb + ground. That's all. There is no closed circuit connection. If you want it will show in the movie. You can do it yourself.

Each fluorescent lamp within a tesla coil radius proves that there is energy transmission !!!

[gotoluc]

Luc,

Why do you say that you can't send energy to a light bulb with one wire? I've done it a long time ago. It is very easy.
All we need is TT + kacher + wire + bulb + ground. That's all. There is no closed circuit connection. If you want it will show in the movie. You can do it yourself.

Each fluorescent lamp within a tesla coil radius proves that there is energy transmission !!!

I did not say you can't send power through one wire.
What I said is, the establishment (teachings) of Electronic or Electrical Engineering says current must have a return path.
There's is no exception to the teachings.
So if you are a graduated EE like poynt99 or the retired EE & Physicist that visits the lab where I do experiments, you would be looking to explain how the current path is completed.

Poynt99 hypothesized that the current return path was completed through the ground (wireless) all the way to the top capacitance of the Tesla coils.

The retired EE & Physicist first hypothesized the current return path was completed through the air (like radio transmissions)

Each engineer will have their own version or explanation of how the current return path is completed but note none of them will consider it's all done through one wire since that's contrary to their teachings.

I have no problem believing efficient high power one wire transmission is possible, since I have not been trained by the establishment.
But for those that have, they will not surrender until they find how the current path is completed.

I had no idea of the EE teachings on this subject had no exceptions until the retired EE & Physicist told me about it.
So I'm sharing it here because many experimenters here are not EE let alone Physicists and may assume one wire power transmission is commonly excepted but it's not.
So it may be good to know this if you engaged in an exchange with an EE and why I'm taking the time to share this.

Regards
Luc