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Getting energy from asymmetry of the magnetic field experiment

Started by ayeaye, November 19, 2019, 11:10:15 AM

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citfta

Hello ayeaye,


I have a couple of questions about your experiment.  First question is where did you get magnets with the poles on the end of the magnet?  Almost all the magnets I have found have the poles on the larger faces of the magnets and not on the ends.  Have you actually used a compass or other device to verify the poles are like you have drawn them?  And my last question is why do you say the experiment is too difficult to perform?  It seems pretty simple to me.  You can get some glue to hold the stationary magnet and piece of glass or plastic in place and then perform the test with your new scales.  I use the all purpose adhesive from ACE hardware.  It is waterproof and remains s little flexible after drying.  I use it because I have found that with a strong twisting force I can separate the parts I have glued together.  This allows me to reuse my magnets or other parts if I want.  I was using a stronger more permanent glue but then destroyed several magnets when I tried to reuse them for other projects.


Respectfully,
Carroll


PS: Thank you for moving your discussion to your own thread!

WhatIsIt

I don't get this?

Floyd Sweet made kW from magnets, and you are still struggling with basics?
For how many years?

It is really joy to read those posts!
Maybe the next year will be more fertile?
Who knows , maybe , if there will be still time?

Happy New Eve!

ayeaye

Quote from: WhatIsIt on December 31, 2019, 07:51:51 AM
Floyd Sweet made kW from magnets, and you are still struggling with basics?

What you don't get is, none of these claims may be true. But ok then, let Floyd Sweet tell what principles he used, and let's replicate them by experiment. He doesn't tell, it cannot be replicated to get any overunity, well, that's the problem. The difference is, here scientific research and experiments matter, not claims.


ayeaye

Quote from: citfta on December 31, 2019, 07:35:21 AM
First question is where did you get magnets with the poles on the end of the magnet?  Almost all the magnets I have found have the poles on the larger faces of the magnets and not on the ends.

To be honest, i don't have magnets with poles on the ends. Except one that is, the one taken from an old hard drive. I have magnets with poles on their larger faces. But, by piling a number of them one on the other, i get a bigger magnet with poles on the ends. See the first photo in this thread, there are disc magnets, 5 mm thick and 25 mm in diameter, with poles on their larger faces. Several such disc magnets are one on the other, and this forms a big magnet, as you see there. I have also small rectangular magnets with poles on their larger faces, a few one on the other enables to make a small magnet, with poles on the ends.

> And my last question is why do you say the experiment is too difficult to perform?

What should i use there, a plastic box? I have a plastic box, but it's not empty, there are things inside it, so i have to move them somewhere else. And so many other things.

So far i have used a mounting tape only, to attach everything, And it has been enough. I like it because it can be completely removed later, with no traces left. This is more difficult with a glue.

> Thank you for moving your discussion to your own thread!

I did not, this discussion is only about one experiment.


ayeaye

Ok. the video of the experiment is up, this is it  https://archive.org/details/asymmsurf , make it fullscreen. Below is the photo of my "device". Yes it was difficult, it was a mess.

The big magnet was made of 8 ceramic disc magnets 5 mm thick and 25 mm in diameter, positioned at an angle like on the drawing above. The small magnet was made of 2 ceramic disc magnets 5 mm thick and 10 mm in diameter.

The video is rather raw. What one can see though, when moving to the right from the neutral position by the drawing above, the force was 1.7 Newtons, and it moved by that force some 3 millimeters, then the force rapidly decreased, energy 5.1 mJ. When moving in the opposite direction from the neutral position, to the left by the drawing above, the force was 1 Newton, and it looks like that it barely moved 2 millimeters, before the force rapidly decreased, thus energy 2 mJ.

By the force rapidly decreasing i mean, i never moved the scales fast, but always very slowly. But when the force decreases a lot, the spring of the scales makes the magnet to move fast.

This experiment was rather messy, it was the first one. But hopefully it shows the difficulties with such experiments, and how to make them better.

Happy New Year everyone!