very simple magnet motor

[iadcw]

I have been working on the idea of a PM since I first played with magnets. I have tried many ideas, from moving toy train cars on a track to gearing several small magnets together. Even made a really large machine with a 2' diameter aluminum disk and used a 200 lb pull rare earth to try and power it in a kind of strange configuration.

ANYWAY  -  I read that PM is possible under current laws of thermodynamics with certain conditions present. It goes something like this. ' It is possible with two systems working the exact opposite of each other'

I cant remember where I read this and would love to hear from someone who has read the same thing.

ALSO - I have a design that uses one magnet. I've proven the concept and have constucted a model (not all parts complete).

Further posting will be done with pics and drawings. ( Ive worked on this design for the last 5yrs on and off, so please be patient). Its so simple and completely different from anything I've seen.

Ive solved the problems of sticking points but making the parts is really tough. I have the equipment, mill, lathe, etc. and its still really tough to form the parts needed. lots of trial and error.

if anyone can tell me if they have read what I did about PM being possile under current laws of thermodynamics, it would be greatly appreciated.

[CLaNZeR]

Look forward to your pictures and more info.

Regards

Sean.

[konduct]

@iadcw  I have read several different all encompassing theories on the necessary conditions for a working PM motor.  One of which was to use the magnet's natural inclination to balance themselves to get past the sticky spot.   

I am very interested in seeing more of your single magnet setup since the simpler the machine, the better I believe. I am also working with several design ideas using different single ring configurations.  I also have acess to a 2 axis CNC machine if you ever need rapid prototyping done..  I can design the files for you based on your specifications and feed them to the machine for very accurate cutting.

Keep us up to date with your progress and let us know if you need anything.

[gyulasun]

Hi iadcw,

I have not come across the idea you described as  "It is possible with two systems working the exact opposite of each other."  but remember a Belgian patent a forum member here ,Lanca IV, mentioned in this forum. This patent works exactly as your quotation says: an electric (DC) motor is fed from a battery, the motor's shaft is hooked to a (DC) generator and the generator's output is connected directly to the same battery. See patent BE438189 at http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=BE438189&F=0  and click on the Mosaics icon to see a Figure. (This is the only info on the patent's 'description', no other working detail is given.)

Looking forward to your further postings.

Regards
Gyula

[MeggerMan]

Hi Gyula,

Have a look at this post from myself:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,919.msg19154.html#msg19154