All Permanent Magnet Motor

[ayeaye]

Oh well, I have my magnets here so I will give it a try for myself and see for a bit of fun.

Maybe you would replicate my experiment as well. If you have scales and a plastic or an aluminum ruler. Much much simpler and then you at least get some results.

I talked with Magnetman a long time ago, and maybe the idea to put magnet under 45 degrees, came from me. I certainly was not the first who thought to put magnet under 45 degrees, it is not difficult to get that idea. But i explained why it works.

I have thought that it may also work with a ring magnet, i even thought about making the 45 degrees magnet to move, though not the way Magnetman did it. I don't know about having two discs, maybe there is some reason.

I would recommend to measure forces. Doing it in that way, just copy, doesn't work, reject it, is not really a reasonable approach, and not the right way to do research. I know Magnetman, he was one of these who talked about the possibilities of making a permanent magnet motor and the theory, i was one too, and i think that he found some way to increase propulsion. What exactly did we talk then, i don't exactly remember.

Whether it finally slows down or not, doesn't so much matter, may even only be a matter of better bearings. I think it is important to measure how much energy gain there is, in that and in similar setups.

[lota]

Hello
I have some magnets. Also ring magnets 156mm Also Neos in different sizes. I don't think you can say it's not possible. You may need 200mm magnets. I will continue to test.  Please set pictures and test. Even if it doesn't work.
Greeting
Lota

[ayeaye]

Why two ring magnets, i don't know, i can only guess. Depending on the material of the ring magnet, the field of the 45 degrees magnets can go through the ring magnet, to the lower ring magnet, so all is like the ring magnet were not in between. Why in that way, i don't know, maybe just so that the ring magnet with the 45 degrees magnets on it kind of floats in the air, and there is less friction. Maybe something different from that happens, again i don't know, i can only guess.

Please, the thread about my experiment is this, see that in the end  https://overunity.com/18363/getting-energy-from-asymmetry-of-the-magnetic-field-experiment/ . I would consider that experiment an elementary thing to do, when researching overunity in permanent magnets. Like ywhen ou study electricity, you do that Faraday experiment with a compass needle, kind of, not much, but very important.

[magnetman12003]

Hi All,
This is my latest drawing incorporating major changes and much easier to build.
I have not tested it yet. It should work out as the tube with the rod magnets inside it floats freely by itself inside the 2 inch pipe section and will push the 45 degree aluminum angle counter clockwise.
You will have to observe polarity!!  North Pole is red. South Pole is blue.
You will have to make four of the 45degree angle setups and place them in a circular fashion as shown.

[ayeaye]

Magnetman, this is pretty complicated and will likely not be replicated. Furthermore if it works, then likely only with a certain magnets, every detail in that setup matters.

Your upper ring magnet floats freely on the lower one?

If so, interesting is, if we made these ring magnets a slightly cone shape, were it then a completely friction free bearing?