All Permanent Magnet Motor

[magnetman12003]

Do I understand this in the right way: There will be four tumblers (each with a bolt inside) and the tumblers are fixed to the turning magnet ring? (The tumblers are fixed to the 45 degree mounted magnets?)

Greetings, Conrad

It's going to look like this.  I have shown a real glass tumbler there for illustration purposes
This is one setup for clarity. Need 4. Notice the phenolic block riser under the tumbler that sets on it.

[magnetman12003]

This goes inside the tumbler by itself to make the motor spin.  What is shown is a 6 inch carriage bolt with a #16 and #4 cannonball lead sinker mounted on it. 3/8 th inch Holes drilled through sinkers so bolt can slide through.  Please note: This bolt must actually touch the 45 degree set magnet to work.  Must notch out the bottom of the tumbler to allow the contact. The tumbler provides a set angle for the bolt. Check this looking at my diagram on page 10.
The heavy weight (GRAVITY)of the bolt pushes down at a angle on the 45 degree mounted magnet.
That in turn will get the base heavy ring magnet to spin either clockwise or counter clock wise depending on how you make the setup. I just found out the heavy weight on the threaded rod should be the closest to the magnet block and the lesser weight be next further away.

Tom

[conradelektro]

This goes inside the tumbler by itself to make the motor spin.  What is shown is a 6 inch carriage bolt with a #16 and #4 cannonball lead sinker mounted on it. 3/8 th inch Holes drilled through sinkers so bolt can slide through.  Please note: This bolt must actually touch the 45 degree set magnet to work.  Must notch out the bottom of the tumbler to allow the contact. The tumbler provides a set angle for the bolt. Check this looking at my diagram on page 10.
The heavy weight (GRAVITY)of the bolt pushes down at a angle on the 45 degree mounted magnet.
That in turn will get the base heavy ring magnet to spin either clockwise or counter clock wise depending on how you make the setup. I just found out the heavy weight on the threaded rod should be the closest to the magnet block and the lesser weight be next further away.

Does the bolt inside the tumbler move in any way while the motor spins? The bolt will move in a circle like the whole setup (45° magnets, tumblers, phenolic blocks, heavy ring magnet), but does it move inside the tumbler in a small circle or back and forth radially?

I am thinking about the centrifugal force acting on the bolt inside the tumbler as the motor spins. A rhythmic movement of the bolts inside the tumblers while the motor is spinning would introduce some dynamics to cause the spinning.

I guess the rationale behind the tumblers is to give the rods some room for a small systematic movement while the motor is spinning?

Sorry for the cryptic sentences, but it is hard to express my thoughts about this permanent magnet motor without having all details. And I understand that magnetman12003 does not want to disclose all details. The world will grab the idea from him and many will use it to their advantage without giving him anything not even credit.

Greetings, Conrad

[synchro1]

Quote from egotronics:

"One simple rotation and the magnets unbalance and it starts to rotate"

Both contraptions use a very sloppy bearing for the rotor.

[seychelles]

WE SHOULD REALLY LOOK AT THIS ONE. THE SECRET IS IN THE SPING ACTION OF THE WOOD SPINNER.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s18h5X2sDZU