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Overunity Machines Forum



All Permanent Magnet Motor

Started by magnetman12003, March 28, 2020, 03:43:49 PM

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magnetman12003

Quote from: conradelektro on May 15, 2020, 04:52:32 PM

This is how a permanent magnet motor should behave theoretically, but I have never seen one and it should not work, again in theory.


Whenever your motor is selfrunning you should show it to people who can do measurements and are experts enough (under a nondisclosure agreement). If it really works you will find an audience. A good idea would be a second or more motors to be sure that you can replicate it yourself. All permanent magnet motors have broken down during demonstrations leaving all questions open, and one wonders why there was never a spare one.


I do not attempt a replication because there are too many varibles concerning the magnets and the setup in general.


Greetings, Conrad
The only part of my setup that works with magnet help is the floating action of the top large ceramic ring suspended by the lower large magnetic ring.  Also and very important is the weighted threaded steel rod must touch ( Atracted to) the 45 degree mounted magnet directly at a angle.


All the rest is done by gravity pulling down the steel rod weight and angle it's positioned at so it bears downwards on the 45 degree magnet. Then that weight now will spin the free floating top ceramic magnet.
Try using your fingers with a weighted rod at various angles directly touching your free floating setups 45 degree magnet and see this for yourself.  THE LARGE FLOATING CERAMIc MAGNET WILL SPIN at some point.
If the weight on the steel rods are not heavy enough and the angle the rod is positioned at is incorrect it won't work.  Very important to be sure the steel rod is touching the 45 degree magnet.
Check my illustrations on pages 10 and 11.


Tom

Magluvin

Quote from: magnetman12003 on May 15, 2020, 02:23:24 PM

My setup if done the way I have shown will spin by itself without doing anything else.
My biggest problem is how to stop the spin without the motor coming apart by centrifugal force.


Tom
I had seen the one vid using the tool moving by hand to get it to spin. Is there another vid of it spinning on its own like you state here?
Thanks
Mags

magnetman12003

Quote from: Magluvin on May 15, 2020, 09:09:36 PM
I had seen the one vid using the tool moving by hand to get it to spin. Is there another vid of it spinning on its own like you state here?
Thanks
Mags
I will post a video showing it working after I get my tumblers installed.  Right now I have been bonding everything securely so the motor does not fly apart later inside my home. I might take it outside and stand a distance away.
The thoughts of getting hit by a lead ball fastened onto a steel rod scares me. 


Will someone who has completed the basic setup try using their fingers to hold a  threaded steel rod  or bolt with its end ON the 45 degree magnet?  Rod must be weighted down.  Then set the rod at a angle to the 45 degree block magnet.
The large ceramic magnet should spin around while you are holding the rod with weight on it at some angle.


Tom

Magluvin

Unless you are guessing it will speed up to explode mode, Id just set it up by adding a bit of friction to control it. Like a non contact brake could be an Al ring suspended around the rotating magnets. It will slow it down magnetically, more and more the faster it goes, without killing off the rotation completely. Tk would call it a Magneto Kinetic Judson Damper, from the Whipmag days.  ;D   Put a diametric magnet in a dremel tool and bring a piece of al near the magnet. The dremel will slow and the al will heat up. Even a pulse motor rotor with mags, it will slow it down.
I think on these things like this these days.... If it is a very basic, open field construction, there can be only so much field force that will occur having distance from magnet poles and such. So it may not spin as fast as you suspect. Like this.... Imagine it built like a tight refined example like real electric motors are, then I would be worried about overspin and construction handling it, if it actually spins. ;) I think you will be ok.
Mags

Magluvin

Dont know why but when I separate my writingssay as separate paragraphs, when I post, it is all just jammed together. :-\

Mags